FF 16 cross over event... A HUGE DISPOINTMENT

[Supersnow845]

You’ve basically just said

1) subjective opinions of the game define the 6-7 range where it moves from “there are problems with the game to personal opinions”
2) my personal grievances with the game are why it’s a 4/10

For example elemental magic not following the elemental wheel being bad is entirely a subjective opinion, the eikons all play different, the game design doesn’t work if you were pigeonholed into playing Garuda because it’s a fire enemy. My personal opinion is elemental interactions are superficial

I cannot look at your list and give 16 anything less than a 6 because it’s a complete package, the story barely contradicts (your only example is mid’s inventions which she specifically said she was locking away) and develops Clive well and the gameplay is fun if a little barebones

[Malthir]

You’ve basically just said

1) subjective opinions of the game define the 6-7 range where it moves from “there are problems with the game to personal opinions”
2) my personal grievances with the game are why it’s a 4/10

You clearly not discussing in good faith anymore by trying to twist things to your narrative. 6-7 is the spectrum of a good game where all the elements of the game are good and it's down to the individual on where they would place it. One could argue that the spectrum is actually closer to being a 6-9 on preference, but that doesn't change a thing about 16 being a 4

I will say again, I gave it a 4 because the Core Gameplay was subpar as in does not meet the standard of GOOD. The Story was terrible because it constantly contradicted character growth, ignored established story elements, making the entire plot a shambles. That's not preference that's not in my opinion that's what actually happened. If you wrote a story about a man who is blind, and then right after you have him sitting at the window saying, I love watching all the people walk by it's so nice to see. Well you would say, this story makes no sense, you just said that man is blind how come he can now see. That's the point I'm making about the story, it's not opinion it's just bad writing.

In isolation certain elements weren't terrible.
Combat - 5 in isolation although shallow, combat was responsive, the camera was bad but not to awful, the fights were far too easy but ultimately combat acceptable
Story - 2-3 As described in more detail before
Core Gameplay loop - 4 while not broken it's by no means good, gear is practically pointless just new upgrade handed to you after boss fight, no real stat build, no special effects just here's a new stick that does more damage. You're teleported back to hub town after every "Quest" sometimes teleported about multiple times during quests so you character is constantly just fade to black moved about the world losing all sense of grandeur.
Artwork - 6 Good graphics nothing animated or looked horrible

[Supersnow845]

You clearly not discussing in good faith anymore by trying to twist things to your narrative. 6-7 is the spectrum of a good game where all the elements of the game are good and it's down to the individual on where they would place it. One could argue that the spectrum is actually closer to being a 6-9 on preference, but that doesn't change a thing about 16 being a 4

I will say again, I gave it a 4 because the Core Gameplay was subpar as in does not meet the standard of GOOD. The Story was terrible because it constantly contradicted character growth, ignored established story elements, making the entire plot a shambles. That's not preference that's not in my opinion that's what actually happened. If you wrote a story about a man who is blind, and then right after you have him sitting at the window saying, I love watching all the people walk by it's so nice to see. Well you would say, this story makes no sense, you just said that man is blind how come he can now see. That's the point I'm making about the story, it's not opinion it's just bad writing.

In isolation certain elements weren't terrible.
Combat - 5 in isolation although shallow, combat was responsive, the camera was bad but not to awful, the fights were far too easy but ultimately combat acceptable
Story - 2-3 As described in more detail before
Core Gameplay loop - 4 while not broken it's by no means good, gear is practically pointless just new upgrade handed to you after boss fight, no real stat build, no special effects just here's a new stick that does more damage. You're teleported back to hub town after every "Quest" sometimes teleported about multiple times during quests so you character is constantly just fade to black moved about the world losing all sense of grandeur.
Artwork - 6 Good graphics nothing animated or looked horrible

I’m just gonna leave it here because you are functionally saying “this isn’t an opinion this is what happened” then proceed to state your opinion on the subject given you still haven’t actually provided reasonable examples of the story being a massive contradiction (I’m not asking you to I’m just saying you haven’t because the one you did was explained in the story you apparently didn’t read)

I just can’t take something seriously that puts a complete and bug free AAA release at a 4 when a 4 barely leaves space for games that actually don’t work, barely count as games and games that aren’t exactly broken but are fundamentally flawed but you do you man

[Malthir]

I’m just gonna leave it here because you are functionally saying “this isn’t an opinion this is what happened” then proceed to state your opinion on the subject

I just can’t take something seriously that puts a complete and bug free AAA release at a 4 but you do you man

Dude you need to raise your standards if not being a complete mess and broke basically makes a game a 6.

Where do I state my opinion on the story? So far you've called me wrong 3 times, but not once have you actually come up with a rebuttal about what I've said.

[Aelin_Ashryver]

I had to do the event on 6 characters so I'm glad it wasn't very long and drawn out. Did it slowly first time and spammed skip cutscene for the alts. I loved how Ifrit looked, made me wish they would revamp old bosses to look better.

[LianaThorne]

I personally can't take 16 seriously since it came with its own auto play/one button mode as an option. I'm sure it's wonderful for those with physical limitations (and I'm happy it's there for them) but it just reminds me of a cheap mobile game that encourages not using brain cells to get through content when it comes to people using it that don't have limitations/just want to use it to make the game less complicated.

[sindriiisgaming]

It was pretty bad tbh and really didn't get me interested in ff16. It was just a chore really to get the glam at the end that I won't even use. Kinda embarrassing compared to the pretty solid ff15 collaboration

[RaideDuku]

They used to make events much longer and needed more work to get the rewards. People complained that it took too long. Made it too hard to get everything, especially if they wanted to get the stuff on multiple characters. Some people didn't give a jack about the story, and just wanted to get the stuff and be done.
So they made events shorter. If people are going to complain either way, might as well pick the option that takes less time and resources.

[SDaemon]

They used to make events much longer and needed more work to get the rewards. People complained that it took too long. Made it too hard to get everything, especially if they wanted to get the stuff on multiple characters. Some people didn't give a jack about the story, and just wanted to get the stuff and be done.
So they made events shorter. If people are going to complain either way, might as well pick the option that takes less time and resources.

I'm trying to recall what events took noticeably longer than what we have now, all the way back to events like Lightning Strikes and the Dragon Quest X one back in 2014, and I'm drawing a blank. I suppose the FATEs gave them a bit of extra fluff but the story bits themselves were much the same.

[Ancalagon_Blacktalon]

I liked the quest a lot, but I wish that the duty had a permanent trial version, like Rathalos. It was a blast and I liked its pacing and animations, so it's a shame it was used exactly once.