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    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    RDM is also taken by an NPC

    the only jobs that aren’t NPC jobs exclusively (so ignoring like graha plays functionally as a PLD if you make him a tank) and that meteor hasn’t played already are

    -WHM
    -SCH
    -BLM
    -SMN
    -BRD (though he has played ARC)
    -DNC (if you don’t count lyna)
    -MCH
    -NIN
    Stormblood meteor was shown as both a monk and samurai, jobs represented by Lyse and Gosetsu. I don't think they're intentionally avoiding jobs because an important NPC for that expansion is also representing that job.
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    Sage has failed to live up to the fantasy of a sci-fi DPS healer. Please change this for 8.0. Make Sage fast, exciting, and aggressive. It should feel like a healer that plays like a DPS. Empower the aspects of Sage's unique healing mechanics: Kardia and Eukrasia to give its healing playstyle more identity.

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    I don't mind the design of healer hits in groups, but doing solo content with a healer is just terrible. I consider WHM to be my main nowadays, but you won't find me playing it without at least one other player in the group.
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    In "many vs. many" solo instances, SE could just slot a healer in as a healer. (And similarly for tanks.) "Healers should heal" and all that.
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    Honestly healers desperately need that silent pulsing damage up they use in criterion but turned up to 15

    Even ignoring how boring 111111111111 is you do so little damage that the instances are just ungodly boring

    I’ve been doing NG+ and I actively put the duties on very easily, both to better represent how strong the WOL is but also because healing longer instances (like the one where we fight magni in 4.3 with half the fight being Y’shtola or the final fight against Zenos) is just so ungodly boring and makes the WOL look like a weakling
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    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    Honestly healers desperately need that silent pulsing damage up they use in criterion but turned up to 15

    Even ignoring how boring 111111111111 is you do so little damage that the instances are just ungodly boring

    I’ve been doing NG+ and I actively put the duties on very easily, both to better represent how strong the WOL is but also because healing longer instances (like the one where we fight magni in 4.3 with half the fight being Y’shtola or the final fight against Zenos) is just so ungodly boring and makes the WOL look like a weakling
    They could solve the issue of solo instanced fights being a slog on healer if they just gave healers a unique echo buff that just boosts our damage by 50% or something. Spamming Glare/Broil/Malefic/Dosis is still boring, but at the very least, it ends faster.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ty_taurus View Post
    Stormblood meteor was shown as both a monk and samurai, jobs represented by Lyse and Gosetsu. I don't think they're intentionally avoiding jobs because an important NPC for that expansion is also representing that job.
    Important NPC no, but member of the 7th dawn probably
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    Quote Originally Posted by hunter2 View Post
    Could you elaborate on what some of those do?
    The scholar in FFXI has access to 2 "stances" , Light Arts and Dark Arts, which basically allow them to use certain advanced buffs/heals or debuffs/offensive magic. Each stance also lets them access specific stratagems which act as a metamagic of sorts. Much like "Recitation" or "Emergency Tacticts", the FFXI stratagems modify the next spell you cast, expanding its range, duration or potency. Stratagems are consumed and they recharge at a fixed rate (Kind of like lillies but with a much longer CD)

    Helixes are a type of magic exclusive to the Scholar. Basically a type of elemental offensive spell that gets stronger depending on the type of weather in the zone. I believe scholar also gets access to a spell to change the weather.
    Kaustra is a super expensive, super strong DoT.
    Embrava is a super expensive HoT that gradually restores target party member's HP and MP, increases attack speed and ranged attack speed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sylvain View Post
    Important NPC no, but member of the 7th dawn probably
    But Lyse was part of the main crew until the end of SB, so that's not it either.
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    Derplander was MNK in SB, right. He's seen sparring with Lyse.. so there's still a possibility that derplander will be a job that an NPC currently is.
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    #FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE


    - Seraphism is BAD.
    - Give us back Shadowflare and make Deployment/Emergency Tactics affect Biolysis
    - Give us back Rouse
    - Make pet management rewarding.

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    Meteor and lyse technically became monks at the same time (lyse revealed herself as actual lyse and started to go more towards MNK than Yda pugalist right about when the SB trailer launched so it’s not like lyse was cemented in their minds as a MNK) so I doubt they will use a job that an existing scion has been using for long enough that we tend to associate that job with that scion

    So I’m still of the opinion AST/GNB (who I forgot in my original list)/SGE/RDM/PIC are out, graha and Y’sthola still can’t seem to decide if they want to fully embrace black magic or hold onto white magic as well and graha also juggles being a PLD so I won’t count any of them

    So meteor is really only left with

    -WHM
    -SCH
    -SMN
    -BLM
    -MCH
    -BRD (again assuming they ignore he was once and ARC)
    -DNC (lyna isn’t important enough in my eyes)
    -NIN (yugiri is the same as lyna in my eyes)
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