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    Quote Originally Posted by Fhqwghads View Post
    How often do you think that would happen? Despite frequency, if this happened the event would be reviewed when the target contacts SE's customer service for wrongful suspension. Server logs would show what happened. The target gets their account back and the malicious group of players is suspended instead for abusing the system. Make it very clear in the TOS that this sort of abuse won't be tolerated.

    But just for the sake of argument, the process would only auto-suspend accounts less than 3 months old. Even if some poor sap was the target of cruel players and was unable to convince customer service of their innocence, they wouldn't lose a whole heck of a lot of time vested in the game.
    Nah, just make it a week or less at that point. I'd be pretty pissed if I dedicated 3m of my life to a game and had all that wiped just because other people decided to be petty, especially considering how slow Square support is. Bots will just be continuously making new accounts anyway so no real reason to target people with months under their belt.

    I can assure you, as I experienced when my ex got hit with an RMT based suspension, they'll go after your account even if the encounter happened months prior if there's evidence of it happening (odds are the person he bought from got caught and they went after their previous trades or he tripped a sensor with the trade itself and the backlog finally got caught up to him).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fhqwghads View Post
    The regex would catch new accounts as soon as they're spammed. It's not like the regex evaporates as soon as it matches text.
    The spammers still would do that, unfortunately. Even if they could spam only one time. :/

    Quote Originally Posted by Fhqwghads View Post
    How often do you think that would happen?
    Very often. I know already 7 people who got their Discord accounts stolen due some very primitve phishing attempts. I did not imagine, that it is possible, that someone falls into that. But it happens. :/


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    Quote Originally Posted by Larirawiel View Post
    The spammers still would do that, unfortunately. Even if they could spam only one time. :/



    Very often. I know already 7 people who got their Discord accounts stolen due some very primitve phishing attempts. I did not imagine, that it is possible, that someone falls into that. But it happens. :/


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    I've heard of at least 3 happening in the past week just on Discord. It happens regularly on 14 if we look at how many people were falling for the "gil giveaway" scams lol.

    Dunno how it happens either but people are just gullible I guess.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fhqwghads View Post
    It's simple to adapt the regex to match new RMT string permutations. All SE has to do is make it a plain old text file that's read by the server every few minutes to keep the regex fresh and up to date.
    And it's even simpler for the spammers to create new string permutations, as well as to create new domains for their site.

    Also a hearty lol at the idea of updating a regex operating on the chat in real time directly on the live game. Yeah, let's make it both possible and likely to break the game's chat at any time! Especially since regexs are so notoriously easy to get right on the first try.

    Let me guess, you work in web development?
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    Honestly... They need to fundamentally change their economy system to stop it. Guild wars 2 has no gold seller because the game is set up in a way that gold seller can't make any money. In that game, you can buy gem to purchase cash shop item. But the gold you earned from playing can be converted to gem. gem can also be converted to gold. And exchange ratio is constantly updated.... So anet stopped gold seller by letting people buy gold from them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mosha View Post
    That's a cop-out. There is a glaring flaw in your idea and your response is to contact customer support if they get wrongfully banned (SE CS is awful btw) You completely neglected to think about the human factors. Also, it would happen quite a lot because people can be extremely petty and cruel like you said, there is even a term for it "Brigading". It's an undercooked idea.

    If I was a sprout and lost 3months of work I would just quit the game.
    Glaring flaw? The "glaring flaw" being tricking someone into tripping a regex and orchestrating a group of people to report a player. You're desperate grasp at straws is really pathetic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Taliriah View Post
    And it's even simpler for the spammers to create new string permutations, as well as to create new domains for their site.

    Also a hearty lol at the idea of updating a regex operating on the chat in real time directly on the live game. Yeah, let's make it both possible and likely to break the game's chat at any time! Especially since regexs are so notoriously easy to get right on the first try.

    Let me guess, you work in web development?
    Yeah, changing a text file to capture new strings is super hard, and it's so much easier to create a new account and register a new domain. Some of you are insufferable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eastwall View Post
    Honestly... They need to fundamentally change their economy system to stop it. Guild wars 2 has no gold seller because the game is set up in a way that gold seller can't make any money. In that game, you can buy gem to purchase cash shop item. But the gold you earned from playing can be converted to gem. gem can also be converted to gold. And exchange ratio is constantly updated.... So anet stopped gold seller by letting people buy gold from them.
    That would be nice. In the meantime, this would be a great stopgap mechanism to reduce the burden from the player having to constantly report and blacklist RMTs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Larirawiel View Post
    The spammers still would do that, unfortunately. Even if they could spam only one time. :/
    Either way you slice it, it would be a huge reduction in spam and effort on the player's part to report and BL.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Taliriah View Post
    Let me guess, you work in web development?
    No, I work on complex massive systems that involve artificial intelligence.

    As far as updating the regex: you get the change tested and reviewed before it's deployed, same as any other change. This isn't rocket surgery.
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