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    Quote Originally Posted by Fhqwghads View Post
    It's simple to adapt the regex to match new RMT string permutations. All SE has to do is make it a plain old text file that's read by the server every few minutes to keep the regex fresh and up to date.
    And it's even simpler for the spammers to create new string permutations, as well as to create new domains for their site.

    Also a hearty lol at the idea of updating a regex operating on the chat in real time directly on the live game. Yeah, let's make it both possible and likely to break the game's chat at any time! Especially since regexs are so notoriously easy to get right on the first try.

    Let me guess, you work in web development?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Taliriah View Post
    And it's even simpler for the spammers to create new string permutations, as well as to create new domains for their site.

    Also a hearty lol at the idea of updating a regex operating on the chat in real time directly on the live game. Yeah, let's make it both possible and likely to break the game's chat at any time! Especially since regexs are so notoriously easy to get right on the first try.

    Let me guess, you work in web development?
    Yeah, changing a text file to capture new strings is super hard, and it's so much easier to create a new account and register a new domain. Some of you are insufferable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fhqwghads View Post
    Glaring flaw? The "glaring flaw" being tricking someone into tripping a regex and orchestrating a group of people to report a player. You're desperate grasp at straws is really pathetic.
    Right, and a good software dev would come up with mechanisms to at least mitigate the flaw I mentioned rather than passing the buck to CS.


    Quote Originally Posted by Fhqwghads View Post
    Yeah, changing a text file to capture new strings is super hard, and it's so much easier to create a new account and register a new domain. Some of you are insufferable.
    I hope you don't work on anything mission-critical with an attitude like that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Taliriah View Post
    Let me guess, you work in web development?
    No, I work on complex massive systems that involve artificial intelligence.

    As far as updating the regex: you get the change tested and reviewed before it's deployed, same as any other change. This isn't rocket surgery.
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    Honestly... They need to fundamentally change their economy system to stop it. Guild wars 2 has no gold seller because the game is set up in a way that gold seller can't make any money. In that game, you can buy gem to purchase cash shop item. But the gold you earned from playing can be converted to gem. gem can also be converted to gold. And exchange ratio is constantly updated.... So anet stopped gold seller by letting people buy gold from them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eastwall View Post
    Honestly... They need to fundamentally change their economy system to stop it. Guild wars 2 has no gold seller because the game is set up in a way that gold seller can't make any money. In that game, you can buy gem to purchase cash shop item. But the gold you earned from playing can be converted to gem. gem can also be converted to gold. And exchange ratio is constantly updated.... So anet stopped gold seller by letting people buy gold from them.
    That would be nice. In the meantime, this would be a great stopgap mechanism to reduce the burden from the player having to constantly report and blacklist RMTs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eastwall View Post
    Honestly... They need to fundamentally change their economy system to stop it. Guild wars 2 has no gold seller because the game is set up in a way that gold seller can't make any money. In that game, you can buy gem to purchase cash shop item. But the gold you earned from playing can be converted to gem. gem can also be converted to gold. And exchange ratio is constantly updated.... So anet stopped gold seller by letting people buy gold from them.

    It's also a somewhat terrible system. Because they can design the game systems in a way that incentivizes people to buy gems to convert to gold. One way this was done was drop rates being incredibly low for special mats.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fhqwghads View Post
    No, I work on complex massive systems that involve artificial intelligence.
    Ah, so systems that never work quite right, by design.

    As far as updating the regex: you get the change tested and reviewed before it's deployed, same as any other change. This isn't rocket surgery.
    Cool. Where do you find the people to do that during the week ends?
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    If you want to filter spammers based on specific strings of text, that will be possible in Dawntrail.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fhqwghads View Post
    Ridding this game of RMT spam is incredibly easy.
    With respect, if it were actually this easy, CBU3 would have done this by now. As you yourself imply, the solution you have proposed is straightforward and simple, which means that it's incredibly unlikely that in the span of a decade, an entire team of professional programmers wouldn't have considered this solution.

    Thus, it's incredibly unlikely that the question to ask is: "Why haven't they figured out and implemented this perfect solution yet?"

    It's far more likely that the better question to ask is: "What am I failing to consider that made them not move forward with this solution?"
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