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    RMT

    Why am I paying a subscription and doing SE's job for them by having to report RMT and blacklist them? Every day I report/BL dozens of accounts. Let me help you out. Ridding this game of RMT spam is incredibly easy.

    Set up a regular expression looking for spam in the /say channel (since these accounts are always new they can only use /say.)

    I'll even give you the regex to use:
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    /www\.mm[o|0]ah\.c[o|0]m.*buy.*gil/gmi
    Duplicate and modify the above for all the other typical sites and permutations of text they use.

    If the regex detects this string, more than 10 people report & blacklist the account and the account is 3 months old or less, the system automatically suspend it. This way the number of people affected by RMT spam is greatly reduced, and I won't have to constantly feel like I'm doing SE's job for them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fhqwghads View Post
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    and if more than 10 people report/blacklist the account, automatically suspend it. ...
    That certainly couldn't possibly be abused. /s
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheOperator3712 View Post
    That certainly couldn't possibly be abused. /s
    You took what I wrote out of context. All 3 conditions must be met for an automatic suspension: the regex script finding a match, players blacklisting and reporting RMT. There is little to no possibility for abuse, unless someone does something malicious like get someone to type into /say a phrase that would trip the regex script, and then convinced 10 people to report and blacklist a targeted person. When the targeted person contacts customer service, the paper trail will surface malicious reporting, unsuspend the targeted person and instead suspend the participants in the wrongful suspension.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fhqwghads View Post
    You took what I wrote out of context. All 3 conditions must be met for an automatic suspension: the regex script finding a match, players blacklisting and reporting RMT. There is little to no possibility for abuse, unless someone does something malicious like get someone to type into /say a phrase that would trip the regex script, and then convinced 10 people to report and blacklist a targeted person. When the targeted person contacts customer service, the paper trail will surface malicious reporting, unsuspend the targeted person and instead suspend the participants in the wrongful suspension.
    That sounds an awful lot like WoW's system, which gets abused all the time. If you provide people with a way to punish other people, they will maliciously use it. You'll also find that bots makers are very creative and will just get around your regex script by changing what they say. It's a never ending game of whack-a-mole. If you really want to stop this problem, there has only ever been one solution, to stop the demand.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheOperator3712 View Post
    That sounds an awful lot like WoW's system, which gets abused all the time. If you provide people with a way to punish other people, they will maliciously use it. You'll also find that bots makers are very creative and will just get around your regex script by changing what they say. It's a never ending game of whack-a-mole. If you really want to stop this problem, there has only ever been one solution, to stop the demand.
    I just explained how it would be difficult to abuse my solution, and if people try to abuse they're the ones who would get suspended.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fhqwghads View Post
    I just explained how it would be difficult to abuse my solution, and if people try to abuse they're the ones who would get suspended.
    Or we can just not go down the path of using a system that can be easily worked around and abused by malicious actors. I like that idea more.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fhqwghads View Post
    I just explained how it would be difficult to abuse my solution, and if people try to abuse they're the ones who would get suspended.
    Difficulty is relative. Also, free trial accounts can report RMT bots. You got an enemy? Get your mates and some free trial accounts together to brigade him and watch as he can't play the game for awhile. Your free trial accounts get suspended? Oh well, just keep doing it until the poor dude can't stand to play the game anymore. Your constantly changing regex filter will inevitably result in bots being updated to use common terms that make this very easy.
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    Silencing the bots does nothing to stop the underlying problem of the RMT farming.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikey_R View Post
    Silencing the bots does nothing to stop the underlying problem of the RMT farming.
    I agree, but at least it will take care of the issue where the onus is 100% on the players to report and blacklist them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fhqwghads View Post
    Why am I paying a subscription and doing SE's job for them by having to report RMT and blacklist them? Every day I report/BL dozens of accounts. Let me help you out. Ridding this game of RMT spam is incredibly easy.

    Set up a regular expression looking for spam in the /say channel (since these accounts are always new they can only use /say.)

    I'll even give you the regex to use:
    Code:
    /www\.mm[o|0]ah\.c[o|0]m.*buy.*gil/gmi
    Duplicate and modify the above for all the other typical sites and permutations of text they use.
    Seems robust. RMT spammers would never be able to work around that.
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