Can we have the hellhound gearset available to buy with Trophy Crystals?

[Boa-Noah]

I don't get the 'prestige' argument, top ranked Feast was FULL of people just buying win-trades so a lot of the people that have those older super rare Feast armor sets weren't legitimate, so why does it matter? Maybe over on JP they didn't do that, don't know since they also claimed to not use mods and then got caught raiding from the Hubble telescope, but on NA it's not a secret that there was a LOT of problems with Feast.

Just put it on the battle pass system they have currently with the Fierce Tyrant or whatever and be done with it, there's no point restricting entire gear sets to like 100 people per server when there's very few people that actively use it anyways, just keep the mounts limited.

[Reinhardt_Azureheim]

I don't get the 'prestige' argument, top ranked Feast was FULL of people just buying win-trades so a lot of the people that have those older super rare Feast armor sets weren't legitimate, so why does it matter? Maybe over on JP they didn't do that, don't know since they also claimed to not use mods and then got caught raiding from the Hubble telescope, but on NA it's not a secret that there was a LOT of problems with Feast.

Just put it on the battle pass system they have currently with the Fierce Tyrant or whatever and be done with it, there's no point restricting entire gear sets to like 100 people per server when there's very few people that actively use it anyways, just keep the mounts limited.

Can you prove your claim and can you show statistics how many did it relative to how many were legit? I do not deny they exist, but I am a bit tired of the "wintrader/cheater" argument when there have been (most likely) vastly more legit players for whom the prestige and achievement mean something than bad actors. The existence of wintraders, cheaters and cheats does not mean the majority did it, thank you.

Battle Pass is a terrible suggestion. See above post for a better system.

[Boa-Noah]

Can you prove your claim and can you show statistics how many did it relative to how many were legit?

Yeah sure just let me pull up my comprehensive excel document listing all the sales from all the win-traders and who they sold to, should be real easy... oh wait, no, the simple fact is that it happened and it was pervasive enough that actual PVP players who did Feast were complaining about it near daily. It's like arguing that 'not all raiders' use plugins when most top raiders in the community actively acknowledge that pretty much everyone these days uses them, so much so that it has a portion of the playerbase that WANTS the plugins to be actively incorporated into the game itself.

I never said the majority, I said loads, big difference.

Also your solution to an alternative for the currently implemented and widely popular solution to PVP rewards is... to look at Overwatch? The failed game? The one dying right now? Yeah that sounds great.

[Araxes]

Yeah sure just let me pull up my comprehensive excel document listing all the sales from all the win-traders and who they sold to, should be real easy... oh wait, no, the simple fact is that it happened and it was pervasive enough that actual PVP players who did Feast were complaining about it near daily. It's like arguing that 'not all raiders' use plugins when most top raiders in the community actively acknowledge that pretty much everyone these days uses them, so much so that it has a portion of the playerbase that WANTS the plugins to be actively incorporated into the game itself.

I never said the majority, I said loads, big difference.

Also your solution to an alternative for the currently implemented and widely popular solution to PVP rewards is... to look at Overwatch? The failed game? The one dying right now? Yeah that sounds great.

The first 4 Seasons were okay. There were not many cheating players cause the game wasn't as big as it is now and there were not many cheats "developed". After that, third party stuff grew rapidly. Especially during the Shadowbringers Expac.

Still no Reason to rob the Veterans who did it legitimately. Also Yoshi P said no on quite a few occasions now. I guess it is to much to hope for people finally stopping to beat the dead horse.

[Boa-Noah]

Also Yoshi P said no on quite a few occasions now.

He said the same thing about the White Ravens, that sure changed huh? Remember that? Yeah, fact is is that no one is being robbed, they got the achievement YEARS ago and they've had that 'honor' for years now, it's time to move on and let other people play in the sandbox.

[Araxes]

He said the same thing about the White Ravens, that sure changed huh? Remember that? Yeah, fact is is that no one is being robbed, they got the achievement YEARS ago and they've had that 'honor' for years now, it's time to move on and let other people play in the sandbox.

Then we can do the same thing with the legacy Tattoo! Thank you very much.

Man, people acting like spoiled children. Acting all up if they can't have the same pants as the other kid.

[Boa-Noah]

Then we can do the same thing with the legacy Tattoo! Thank you very much.

Why not? I'd love a tattoo toggle or the additional dialogue legacy-only characters get, that'd be great, but fact is I didn't even know FFXIV existed for 1.0 and now the only chance I'll ever get to their ultra special treatment is watching youtube clips because they had the 'honor' of paying a subscription.

I'm 1000% all for maximum equality, you want some of the PVP gear? Go play PVP and earn your crystals and buy the armor you want, why not? What possible reason is there to lock players, especially new players who didn't have the opportunity to compete, from the content ENTIRELY so a handful of people can feel extra special? Hell why bother with the current system? Just lock that armor behind Feast like the old days, surely it's a better system with no flaws, right? If Feast was so good why isn't all PVP locked to Feast tiers? You don't get to play PVP if there's no Feast so people who won Feast can be special, it just makes sense, right?

I'm so sick of people that want their literal fancy pants to remain eternally fancy and untouchable for 99% of the playerbase, I have the stupid Cait Sith doll for getting in on the ARR early access and I could care less if someone else wants to buy one, let players be able to earn/get whatever it is they want in the game, locking it is stupid and antiquated.

[Reinhardt_Azureheim]

Yeah sure just let me pull up my comprehensive excel document listing all the sales from all the win-traders and who they sold to, should be real easy... oh wait, no, the simple fact is that it happened and it was pervasive enough that actual PVP players who did Feast were complaining about it near daily. It's like arguing that 'not all raiders' use plugins when most top raiders in the community actively acknowledge that pretty much everyone these days uses them, so much so that it has a portion of the playerbase that WANTS the plugins to be actively incorporated into the game itself.

I never said the majority, I said loads, big difference.

Fair enough.

Also your solution to an alternative for the currently implemented and widely popular solution to PVP rewards is... to look at Overwatch? The failed game? The one dying right now? Yeah that sounds great.

"Dying" is exaggerated, because competitive reward structure was not what caused the issues for this game. It was Bobby Kotick's vile monetization scheme and how he basically forced things on the OW team, which led to the downfall of PVE, because there was no pleasing this man other than exorbitant amounts of money for the least amount of content given. The game is currently in a healing stage and as much as people will forever miss the PVE that was promised, they are 100% giving their all to improve the core game, the PvP.

Just because a game has aspects that caused it to have a downfall does not mean that the ENTIRE game has zero things to draw from. The competitive currency system is legit and I'd like to discuss this not by talking down the game's past but by the present of this particular system. Not the cash shop, not the missing PVE, not the 5v5 vs 6v6 debate - just the competitive currency system.

[Reinhardt_Azureheim]

He said the same thing about the White Ravens, that sure changed huh? Remember that? Yeah, fact is is that no one is being robbed, they got the achievement YEARS ago and they've had that 'honor' for years now, it's time to move on and let other people play in the sandbox.

Didn't Yoshi P also publicly apologize to the legacy 1.X players who obtained this item legitimately fighting Nael back then and admit it was a mistake?

Sorry but I really dislike your take on this, all I read is "mom said it's my turn with the controller now" and completely and utterly disregarding what some players had to go through to obtain what they had.

[Boa-Noah]

Didn't Yoshi P also publicly apologize to the legacy 1.X players who obtained this item legitimately fighting Nael back then and admit it was a mistake?

He apologized and added a 'Replica' suffix to the White Ravens that weren't from fighting Nael because players who got them legit with Legacy were very vocal and very upset that other people got to wear their special earrings.