[Feedback] Levequest revamp

[Rehayem]

Currently as it stands, the system is not only outdated, but also punishing.

There's 3 different achievement counting 5000 levequest each (battlecraft, tradecraft and fieldcraft).

It takes 12h for 3 allowances, with limit of 100 allowances at a given time. It takes about 2,5 weeks to receive 100 allowances. Following some basic math, it's going to take 6,8 years to complete 15k levequests, just for these 3 achievements alone.

I understand timegating this was maybe necessary back in ye olden days, however as mentioned above, it's completely outdated.

My proposal to fix this to make it less strenuous:

Option A: Keep 12h timer, but increase allowance from 3 to 9. This would also mean to increase maximum allowances from 100 to 200 or more.
Option B: Decrease the 12h timer to 6h, but keeping 3 allowances.

Option A would decrease the wait from 6,8 years to about 3,4 years. Option B would make it about 2,3 years.

Both are far more acceptable than what we currently have. Game is approaching its 11th birthday, and I believe things like these need to be improved for the betterment of others and the game.

Keep discussion civil.

[DrWho2010]

seeing how the system had ways of rewarding things a bit too much in the past (re: coffee biscuits) keeping things the way they are is just fine. if you're new to the game, well sorry to say you can't "catch up" that fast.

[Rehayem]

seeing how the system had ways of rewarding things a bit too much in the past (re: coffee biscuits) keeping things the way they are is just fine. if you're new to the game, well sorry to say you can't "catch up" that fast.

I can tell you haven't bothered reading the message in the first place. I recommend you do again, because nowhere did I mention any rewards.

[AmiableApkallu]

I can tell you haven't bothered reading the message in the first place. I recommend you do again, because nowhere did I mention any rewards.

Leves allow you to print gil. Increasing the rate at which you gain allowances increases the rate at which you can print gil.

Now, I'm not convinced the changes proposed here will have that much of an impact on the in-game economy, but a priori, it is at least worth a moment's consideration.

[Rehayem]

Leves allow you to print gil. Increasing the rate at which you gain allowances increases the rate at which you can print gil.

Now, I'm not convinced the changes proposed here will have that much of an impact on the in-game economy, but a priori, it is at least worth a moment's consideration.

You can read Rudje's reply from earlier: even if rewards were nerfed to the ground, it doesn't change the fact it still takes 7 years to complete the achievements.

Besides, you worry so much about printing gil from leves, what about submarines? Sure, it may be a limited number of FCs doing that, but making gil in this game is extremely easy, I don't see how that changes anything.

[Loggos]

Leves allow you to print gil. Increasing the rate at which you gain allowances increases the rate at which you can print gil.

Now, I'm not convinced the changes proposed here will have that much of an impact on the in-game economy, but a priori, it is at least worth a moment's consideration.

Wouldn't it be possible to adjust the amount of gil relative to the amount of allowances if it turns out to be a big problem? As in, if you get twice the number of allowances you halve the amount of gil you get per quest.

[LordMcMutton]

Leves allow you to print gil. Increasing the rate at which you gain allowances increases the rate at which you can print gil.

Now, I'm not convinced the changes proposed here will have that much of an impact on the in-game economy, but a priori, it is at least worth a moment's consideration.

Do they really give enough Gil that the profit would outweigh the massive tedium of grinding through that many Levequests?

Even doing the Leve grinds just for certain Challenge Logs and Relic Weapons kills my soul

[AmiableApkallu]

Do they really give enough Gil that the profit would outweigh the massive tedium of grinding through that many Levequests?

That will vary from person to person. 10k gil for a leve that takes on average maybe a minute to gather the mats for and another minute to let a macro run, and that I can repeat indefinitely doesn't strike me as so bad, especially if I read or watch something else while waiting for the macro to do its thing.

[Rudje]

This has nothing to do with the actual leve rewards, though? Even if you nerfed every single leve reward into the ground you'd still have to do like seven years of leves to get those, which is a bit absurd for an achievement that doesn't even have a title iirc. 2-3 years is fine for a very long-term achievement, but once you start pushing near a decade it's a bit much.

[TheMightyMollusk]

You could just.....not do the achievement? There's no reward for it anyway, so it's only there as busywork.