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    Valkyrie_Lenneth's Avatar
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    Lynne Asteria
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    What is the point of this thread? I'm not really being facetious, I need to understand what the question really is. BiS is there to help you clear fights faster, and is mostly needed now for ultimates. It has no other purpose, nor has it ever had any other purpose. Fights in this game, outside of ultimates, are designed to be cleared with crafted gear available at the start of the tier. This is in part because when Gordias came out and was overtuned to where that was not accomplishable by more than a fraction of the playerbase, the raid scene was almost destroyed. We are too accustomed to not needed to clear previous fights for extensive periods to get gear to clear later fights. This is just how raiding is designed.
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    Pink Perfection
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    What is the point of this thread? I'm not really being facetious, I need to understand what the question really is. BiS is there to help you clear fights faster, and is mostly needed now for ultimates. It has no other purpose, nor has it ever had any other purpose. Fights in this game, outside of ultimates, are designed to be cleared with crafted gear available at the start of the tier. This is in part because when Gordias came out and was overtuned to where that was not accomplishable by more than a fraction of the playerbase, the raid scene was almost destroyed. We are too accustomed to not needed to clear previous fights for extensive periods to get gear to clear later fights. This is just how raiding is designed.
    This is all I wanted to know. All this time I was raiding with the purpose of getting BiS, and now that I have it, I don't find any purpose other than start doing ultimates. I just needed to reafirm myself if that's all that's left to do.
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    You can solo treasure dungeons if you have warrior geared up
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    King Canadane
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    How much side content have you done?
    There's plenty to the game that isn't raiding.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Canadane View Post
    How much side content have you done?
    There's plenty to the game that isn't raiding.
    Nevermind the side content! I want to do something with my BiS! I farmed 2 months for it, what was the point?
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    Lily D'kryl
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vandso View Post
    Nevermind the side content! I want to do something with my BiS! I farmed 2 months for it, what was the point?
    Go do Criterion Savage or smth.
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    Sometimes rumors are just... rumors.

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    MistakeNot's Avatar
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    Auriana Redsteele
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vandso View Post
    Nevermind the side content! I want to do something with my BiS! I farmed 2 months for it, what was the point?
    You tell us! Why did you farm for it?

    By getting BiS gear you have proved that you don't need BiS gear. There is nothing you need BiS gear for, it just makes high-level content a tiny bit easier than the next-best gear pieces.
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    Thalia Beckford
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vandso View Post
    Nevermind the side content! I want to do something with my BiS! I farmed 2 months for it, what was the point?
    To have it before everyone else and be able to dye the normal raid gear. To make it that much easier for weekly reclears as you gear up.

    XIV is not like older MMOs where there is a massive gear gap between casually obtained gear and raid gear. We're all reset fairly close to even gearwise with each new expansion and BiS gives a slight boost in the new MSQ content where you don't need to upgrade for quite a while into the expansion. The only long-term use for BiS is Ultimates.
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    Enkidoh Roux
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    Let me guess, you're a veteran of older MMOs right? FFXIV is very different to old school MMOs like FFXI where BiS was ultimate gear that was a desired reward for your hard work and remained useful - here in FFXIV, BiS is just a short term benefit only really useful if you're into hardcore endgame content (as in, Ultimate/Unreal raids) - everything else is perfectly doeable with much lower ilevel gear. Gear is just a tool that is constantly being upgraded, so what is BiS now... will soon be junk only useful for glamour or trading in for Grand Company Seals. Gear in general is just a tool for a task, to be used and then replaced when a better alternative comes along.

    That's not to say you've wasted your time - as the first reply in this thread mentioned, you'll be set for normal content going through Dawntrail til towards the end of it's main scenario, so you won't have to worry about upgrading for a long time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rannie View Post
    Aaaaannnd now I just had a mental image of Lahabrea walking into a store called Bodies R Us and trying on different humans.... >.<

    Lahabrea: hn too tall... tooo short.... Juuuuuust right.
    Venat was right.

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    Gullis Hil
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    Unless you need it for a ultimate, there is none.
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