Inventory Space

[smashBG]

They've mentioned in the past that they're aware of the demand for a glamour log and would like to implement one, but are held back by technical debt. As a player, I want them to bite the bullet and start throwing bodies at the problem. As a tech worker, I'm deeply sympathetic to anyone tasked with overhauling outdated systems and totally understand why they'd prefer to keep kicking the can down the road.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

All they needed to fix was a glamour log and 99% of our inventory issues would vanish...

But nope, instead we got a bastardized bank they throw patchwork at once every few months.

Because its just that easy, and they definitely haven't attempted to implement one because why would they do something everyone agrees is a good idea.

[GrizzlyTank]

They've mentioned in the past that they're aware of the demand for a glamour log and would like to implement one, but are held back by technical debt. As a player, I want them to bite the bullet and start throwing bodies at the problem. As a tech worker, I'm deeply sympathetic to anyone tasked with overhauling outdated systems and totally understand why they'd prefer to keep kicking the can down the road.

They have shown that they can make new additions to the system. There is also existing systems in place that could have been used as a compromise with a similar effect.

[Hasrat]

materia, dyes, fishing tackles, and misc things like the fireworks

What's worth recognizing is that vendors are also effectively a form of inventory. Permanent and infinite. If you can freely buy items from an NPC vendor, there's no reason to hold onto any items you aren't imminently using.

[undull1]

Its hard not to hoard when most dungeons forcefully give you useless materia, gear you don't want and outdated crafting materials.

See the meme of people literally sprinting to the end of Crystal towers exit lest they be swamped with piles of garbage in their inventory.

[Tint]

They've mentioned in the past that they're aware of the demand for a glamour log and would like to implement one, but are held back by technical debt. As a player, I want them to bite the bullet and start throwing bodies at the problem. As a tech worker, I'm deeply sympathetic to anyone tasked with overhauling outdated systems and totally understand why they'd prefer to keep kicking the can down the road.

How would a glamour log even work different from the achievment log? Every crafting recipe you craft, item you gather and fish you catch for the first time get's logged. All the mounts, minions, hairstyles, umbrellas, orchestrion songs...

Somehow they can implement an log for all of that and can expand it every patch. Achievements even log your progress. But for armor it is impossible?

[PercibelTheren]

The way this game handles inventory is definitely rather unfortunate. Unfortunately, I don't see it changing any time soon. My method has been basically asking myself the following question: "Am I actually ever going to use it and if so, is it difficult to replace?". If the answer is "no", I sell it. Plenty of housing items, glams and such aren't very difficult to obtain again, should one wish it.

That being said, I would love a dedicated fishing bait inventory and I would also very much like to be able to put dyes into either the glamour dresser or the armoire. Having to keep them in my inventory so that I don't have to go digging through retainers every time I want to recolor something is very annoying.

[Tint]

I have the solution for a band aid glamour log :O

I mean we already have achievments you get when you wear a specific armor set (the stuff from Dzemael Darkhold, Grand Company uniforms, accessories from deep dungeons) and we have an NPC which sells armor based on what achievments you have (seasonal events, story- and side story progress).

Why not shoehorn the glamour log into the achievment system? But give it an seperate UI. Wear armor set, interact with glamour dresser, get "achievment", unlock gear set to "repurchase" from glamour dresser.

[SchwarzwaelderTorte]

I'm aware this is not possible for everyone but: if you're in a small enough FC with the right privileges (and the right people I guess), you can make several alts, put them all in the FC, level them high enough to get them retainers, and boom 2 extra retainers (or more depending on your sub) and their inventory slots per alt for you to use, and you can transfer the items between them through the FC chest. I've been using that method when I needed Jet Black Dye on tradeable not-yet-bound gear with Gold Chocobo feathers.
And then you can expand that system even more with alts on other servers, but then you need a friend to trade stuff from one character to another.

... However on my main I've been keeping my completed relics, eureka and bozja gear, and deep dungeon weapons in my retainers and yeah, after 4 expansions and idk how many jobs I'm starting to sweat a little (yes I am aware that you can throw away the relics and buy replicas, but it's still nicer to keep the originals idk)

[GrizzlyTank]

How would a glamour log even work different from the achievment log? Every crafting recipe you craft, item you gather and fish you catch for the first time get's logged. All the mounts, minions, hairstyles, umbrellas, orchestrion songs...

Somehow they can implement an log for all of that and can expand it every patch. Achievements even log your progress. But for armor it is impossible?

It's gotten to the point that it seems to be mostly excuses by now. They are able to implement new systems, systems that can procure items. The achievement system can also generate items, and they have items that create items like the gear coffers.

To save storage they could have made a requirement to collect all pieces of gear for a given tier to be able to log and glamour it, which would be 5*7+4 pieces of armor + weapons for one achievement rather than save each individual piece.

They could possibly have utilized a virtual inventory slots only visible by the server to verify and apply logged glamours, which would only be loaded in certain spaces like the inn to minimize server strain (same excuse as for the glamour coffer and whatnot).

Something like (server checks if you have an achievement -> Generates items from said achievement into an inaccessible inventory -> Apply desired glamour -> Clear the inaccessible inventory).

Still would want to hear a very concrete reason for why they have such issues with it and methods they have tried other than "we can't".