Healing Focus or DPS Focus

[Rein_eon_Osborne]

Hmm.. what if they just add an effect to Cure 2 and Medica where it becomes Afflatus Solace and Afflatus Rapture if there is a lily stack.

Scenarios like P7S purgation phase kinda makes me thankful they're separate buttons. But then, that sort of scenario doesn't happen too often either.

I do want a better reason to be given if the WHM chooses to save their lilies... like how I personally would revamp them in one of my older post here

[Sylvain]

WHM is strangely the most and the least bloated healer

It has the least number of buttons but it also has the most buttons that really don’t do anything to justify their existence or overlap with other superior buttons

That's also kind of how I see it...

POM is a fun burst button counterpart to ley lines but doesn’t actually do anything interesting

See, in the healer wishlist, I suggested that PoM could grant blood lilly whenever you'd cast Glare. Without suggesting this to be an amazing idea, I feel like just adding new effects to some existing skills could help make our dps less boring.

Because if adding button is really the one thing they want to avoid... many things could be done just by adding effects, something like:
Get a blood lilly everytime you cast glare, holyIII or Dia while affected by PoM, up to 6 blood lilly
Every 5 cast of Glare or Dia, HolyIII becomes HolyII which is instant and deal about 50% more damage than Glare. (Add a flower effect to the jauge gauge, blooming as we glare)
Casting Assize grants one charge of HolyII for 15s.
Whenever Dia expires, your next HolyII is a crit

Like, it's not much, it isn't ground breaking or anything, but it would make things more dynamic and it effectively cost 0 new skills.

[hunter2]

Hmm.. what if they just add an effect to Cure 2 and Medica where it becomes Afflatus Solace and Afflatus Rapture if there is a lily stack.

I think that's a good idea, and I've proposed it elsewhere. There are valid objections though; in some situations (particularly in ults) you want to hold a lily so that you can Rapture while moving during an upcoming mechanic, but you also need to heal the tank now - so you Cure II the tank instead of using Solace on them. Nuanced gameplay like that would unfortunately be lost by button consolidation.

[ThorneDynasty]

If that's what passes for nuanced gameplay for healers, I'd gladly exchange it for a more involved DPS kit (that would probably include movement utility anyway).

[Allegor]

I mentioned a while back that despite being against further role/job homogenization, WHM would really benefit from having their own Eukrasia system, since Solace and Rapture are quite literally just instant cast Cure II and Medica, even having the same potencies. Maybe even have Holy turn into Misery, that'd be 3 less buttons to worry about.

[Truen]

1. Bring back some DPS mechanics, whether you think Healers need some sort of DPS rotation or a basic DPS focused archetype to keep track of while in a fight. (Such as SCH returned as a dotmage for example)

[Aravell]

This arguement of yours against more dps makes no sense. You don't want more dps because you think the dps kits actual dps have is boring, yet REFUSE to acknowledge the healers here who find the CURRENT dps kits JUST AS BORING and want them to change.

I can't imagine how someone can think the DPS jobs builder-spender rotations are boring while being totally fine with mashing 1 button 140 times on a healer. But hey, different strokes for different folks, I guess.

[AmiableApkallu]

I can't imagine how someone can think the DPS jobs builder-spender rotations are boring while being totally fine with mashing 1 button 140 times on a healer. But hey, different strokes for different folks, I guess.

I think the argument is more that if actual DPS rotations are deemed boring, then there's no hope of making healer DPS rotations not-boring. And at some level, I agree with that.

What do I do for this GCD?

The DPS and Tank answer is always the same: push a damage button. And the entire point of a rotation is that there's not even a choice which damage button it is. It's already been chosen by the rotation; you need only do the right thing.

Healers, in theory, might have to choose between pushing a damage button vs. a healing button. In practice, depending on the content you're running, the answer is very lopsided, and within those two answers (damage or healing), the choices are limited/obvious. Hence my previous response.

[Supersnow845]

I think the argument is more that if actual DPS rotations are deemed boring, then there's no hope of making healer DPS rotations not-boring. And at some level, I agree with that.

What do I do for this GCD?

The DPS and Tank answer is always the same: push a damage button. And the entire point of a rotation is that there's not even a choice which damage button it is. It's already been chosen by the rotation; you need only do the right thing.

Healers, in theory, might have to choose between pushing a damage button vs. a healing button. In practice, depending on the content you're running, the answer is very lopsided, and within those two answers (damage or healing), the choices are limited/obvious. Hence my previous response.

That’s a core problem with the way 14’s jobs work as a collective and I don’t think “every GCD there is only button that is the correct button to press” should be used as a way to not get more damage options on healers

If you don’t like rigid rotations then you functionally don’t like any job in this game, healers have extremely rigid rotations they are just also a single button

[AmiableApkallu]

That’s a core problem with the way 14’s jobs work as a collective and I don’t think “every GCD there is only button that is the correct button to press” should be used as a way to not get more damage options on healers

If you don’t like rigid rotations then you functionally don’t like any job in this game, healers have extremely rigid rotations they are just also a single button

I think a more complete response would also throw some shade at encounter design. Give healers a bit more in the damage department, increase healing requirements a bit, and (re-)introduce randomness -- crit autos, untelegraphed mini-cleaves, less predictable ordering of mechanics, ty's suggestion of mechanics where you'll probably get hit by some AoEs but not all of them-- and I think you've got the foundation of less rigid gameplay.

(And that randomness would affect all jobs, which I'd count as bonus.)