Healing Focus or DPS Focus

[ASkellington]

2) Thank you for asking. It's because the DPS jobs are tedious. Like, they don't use crowd control anymore, they don't or barely use interrupts, they don't use punishes, they don't have difficult resource management choices, there are no buff- or debuff-centric jobs, there's no pet management, half the buttons are glorified auto-attacks including on the casters, they all burst instead of using any other damage profile, their burst gauges all automatically fill in time as long as you keep your skills on cooldown. This is what I have to look forward to?

This arguement of yours against more dps makes no sense. You don't want more dps because you think the dps kits actual dps have is boring, yet REFUSE to acknowledge the healers here who find the CURRENT dps kits JUST AS BORING and want them to change.

We LITERALLY replace a DoT every 30s with only SGE currently having an extra dps button that isn't tied to a heal and our cry for something more interesting is "no because DPS jobs are tedious" to you? What? Do you think we're just going to say goodbye to cards? Our healing kit? Aetherflow? And become a dps? AST is STILL going to have their cards. SCH (hopefully, never know with the idiots at SE) is going to keep having the choice of Energy Drain and all their Aetherflow heals. WHM is still going to keep their lilies and I pray to the Twelve SGE gets a heal-by-dps overhaul so it can be its own thing and not discount SCH. And more importantly, we're STILL going to have our healing as our primary job. We just want our down time to be LESS BORING when we don't have to heal.

We want MORE to juggle to we have more engagement.

Tighter ilevel sync would fix them without requiring full overhauls and it's probably the best way to approach it when you look at the kind of carnage they inflicted on the ARR&HW dungeons. I don't know how you can look at those changes, hate them, and then say "please do the rest of the fights too."

Tighter ilvl sync isn't going to do jack except to maybe Crystal Tower series. My problems with current fight design are thus:

• Damage is too infrequent
• Damage comes too slow
• Tankbusters come too slow
• Too much avoidable damage

All of which ilvl sync doesn't do a damn thing towards.

Fights would need to be adjusted, minor tweaks to full blown reworks.

[Truen]

1. Bring back some DPS mechanics, whether you think Healers need some sort of DPS rotation or a basic DPS focused archetype to keep track of while in a fight. (Such as SCH returned as a dotmage for example)

[Aravell]

This arguement of yours against more dps makes no sense. You don't want more dps because you think the dps kits actual dps have is boring, yet REFUSE to acknowledge the healers here who find the CURRENT dps kits JUST AS BORING and want them to change.

I can't imagine how someone can think the DPS jobs builder-spender rotations are boring while being totally fine with mashing 1 button 140 times on a healer. But hey, different strokes for different folks, I guess.

[AmiableApkallu]

I can't imagine how someone can think the DPS jobs builder-spender rotations are boring while being totally fine with mashing 1 button 140 times on a healer. But hey, different strokes for different folks, I guess.

I think the argument is more that if actual DPS rotations are deemed boring, then there's no hope of making healer DPS rotations not-boring. And at some level, I agree with that.

What do I do for this GCD?

The DPS and Tank answer is always the same: push a damage button. And the entire point of a rotation is that there's not even a choice which damage button it is. It's already been chosen by the rotation; you need only do the right thing.

Healers, in theory, might have to choose between pushing a damage button vs. a healing button. In practice, depending on the content you're running, the answer is very lopsided, and within those two answers (damage or healing), the choices are limited/obvious. Hence my previous response.

[Aravell]

I think the argument is more that if actual DPS rotations are deemed boring, then there's no hope of making healer DPS rotations not-boring. And at some level, I agree with that.

While that's fine and all, I think the important thing is that the dev team tries something. We've had the same stale healer gameplay for 2 expansions now and it's clear that an increasing amount of people hate it.

If the changes are bad, we give feedback. The important thing is that they try anything at this point.

[Supersnow845]

I think the argument is more that if actual DPS rotations are deemed boring, then there's no hope of making healer DPS rotations not-boring. And at some level, I agree with that.

What do I do for this GCD?

The DPS and Tank answer is always the same: push a damage button. And the entire point of a rotation is that there's not even a choice which damage button it is. It's already been chosen by the rotation; you need only do the right thing.

Healers, in theory, might have to choose between pushing a damage button vs. a healing button. In practice, depending on the content you're running, the answer is very lopsided, and within those two answers (damage or healing), the choices are limited/obvious. Hence my previous response.

That’s a core problem with the way 14’s jobs work as a collective and I don’t think “every GCD there is only button that is the correct button to press” should be used as a way to not get more damage options on healers

If you don’t like rigid rotations then you functionally don’t like any job in this game, healers have extremely rigid rotations they are just also a single button

[AmiableApkallu]

That’s a core problem with the way 14’s jobs work as a collective and I don’t think “every GCD there is only button that is the correct button to press” should be used as a way to not get more damage options on healers

If you don’t like rigid rotations then you functionally don’t like any job in this game, healers have extremely rigid rotations they are just also a single button

I think a more complete response would also throw some shade at encounter design. Give healers a bit more in the damage department, increase healing requirements a bit, and (re-)introduce randomness -- crit autos, untelegraphed mini-cleaves, less predictable ordering of mechanics, ty's suggestion of mechanics where you'll probably get hit by some AoEs but not all of them-- and I think you've got the foundation of less rigid gameplay.

(And that randomness would affect all jobs, which I'd count as bonus.)

[AnotherPerson]

If you don’t like rigid rotations then you functionally don’t like any job in this game, healers have extremely rigid rotations they are just also a single button

You forget PvP gameplay exists. There's a rotation but it's not as rigid because fights change and players have to adapt. PvE though is pretty much doomed with the current way encounter design is developing if you want a non-static rotation. Unless they stop making everything so heavily scripted and introduce some variables and smaller checks to not want to hold everything for a burst window every 120s.

[Supersnow845]

You forget PvP gameplay exists. There's a rotation but it's not as rigid because fights change and players have to adapt. PvE though is pretty much doomed with the current way encounter design is developing if you want a non-static rotation. Unless they stop making everything so heavily scripted and introduce some variables and smaller checks to not want to hold everything for a burst window every 120s.

PVP is a different game TBH

[rawker]

i dont like Dissipation. I would rather it goes and the Fairy gains its flavour back because the fairy is the most unique element of scholar. Im not gonna get into it because this isn't a thread about what i want for scholar but lets just say I want the fairy to be literally our main focus when it comes to healing.

To be fair, i used to hate Dissipation too. Getting to know your kit even more to find those windows where the added healing potency and AF stacks offer more value than a pet with all of its abilities on cooldown.