[Feedback] Levequest revamp

[Rehayem]

Currently as it stands, the system is not only outdated, but also punishing.

There's 3 different achievement counting 5000 levequest each (battlecraft, tradecraft and fieldcraft).

It takes 12h for 3 allowances, with limit of 100 allowances at a given time. It takes about 2,5 weeks to receive 100 allowances. Following some basic math, it's going to take 6,8 years to complete 15k levequests, just for these 3 achievements alone.

I understand timegating this was maybe necessary back in ye olden days, however as mentioned above, it's completely outdated.

My proposal to fix this to make it less strenuous:

Option A: Keep 12h timer, but increase allowance from 3 to 9. This would also mean to increase maximum allowances from 100 to 200 or more.
Option B: Decrease the 12h timer to 6h, but keeping 3 allowances.

Option A would decrease the wait from 6,8 years to about 3,4 years. Option B would make it about 2,3 years.

Both are far more acceptable than what we currently have. Game is approaching its 11th birthday, and I believe things like these need to be improved for the betterment of others and the game.

Keep discussion civil.

[DrWho2010]

seeing how the system had ways of rewarding things a bit too much in the past (re: coffee biscuits) keeping things the way they are is just fine. if you're new to the game, well sorry to say you can't "catch up" that fast.

[Rudje]

This has nothing to do with the actual leve rewards, though? Even if you nerfed every single leve reward into the ground you'd still have to do like seven years of leves to get those, which is a bit absurd for an achievement that doesn't even have a title iirc. 2-3 years is fine for a very long-term achievement, but once you start pushing near a decade it's a bit much.

[Rehayem]

seeing how the system had ways of rewarding things a bit too much in the past (re: coffee biscuits) keeping things the way they are is just fine. if you're new to the game, well sorry to say you can't "catch up" that fast.

I can tell you haven't bothered reading the message in the first place. I recommend you do again, because nowhere did I mention any rewards.

[TheMightyMollusk]

You could just.....not do the achievement? There's no reward for it anyway, so it's only there as busywork.

[Rehayem]

You could just.....not do the achievement? There's no reward for it anyway, so it's only there as busywork.

While yes, technically no one has to do it, it kinda defeats the purpose of achievement hunting. If SE didn't want people to work on something and feel satisfied getting it done, why put it at 5k each, taking almost 2+ years to achieve just one? Expansions take about 2 years to release (this is just a round number), that means I'd need, and like many others, have to wait about 3 expansions to get just those 3 achievements.

[AmiableApkallu]

I can tell you haven't bothered reading the message in the first place. I recommend you do again, because nowhere did I mention any rewards.

Leves allow you to print gil. Increasing the rate at which you gain allowances increases the rate at which you can print gil.

Now, I'm not convinced the changes proposed here will have that much of an impact on the in-game economy, but a priori, it is at least worth a moment's consideration.

[Rehayem]

Leves allow you to print gil. Increasing the rate at which you gain allowances increases the rate at which you can print gil.

Now, I'm not convinced the changes proposed here will have that much of an impact on the in-game economy, but a priori, it is at least worth a moment's consideration.

You can read Rudje's reply from earlier: even if rewards were nerfed to the ground, it doesn't change the fact it still takes 7 years to complete the achievements.

Besides, you worry so much about printing gil from leves, what about submarines? Sure, it may be a limited number of FCs doing that, but making gil in this game is extremely easy, I don't see how that changes anything.

[Mecia]

I wish they did something about leves but i just dont see it happening. Nearly 7 years for an achievement is ridiculous.

[Rehayem]

I wish they did something about leves but i just dont see it happening. Nearly 7 years for an achievement is ridiculous.

Not only that, but what if you miss few days and let it overflow? You're pushed back, punished because maybe you were busy with real life. If the game is meant to be enjoyed, as it currently is, this particular issue is not so enjoyable. Even PvP is less punishing than this.