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  1. #21
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    Fyrebrand's Avatar
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    Friel Wyndor
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    Siren
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Local_Custard View Post
    I would likely bring a fantasia into irl as free hrt
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    Curative Magic.
    **** the healthcare system.
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    Teleportation
    No more traffic jams or late-running trains/buses which cost a small fortune to use on a regular basis!
    If given the chance to have any amazing, magical invention of our choosing integrated into real life, some of the best options are just "I wish I could be the real me," "I wish I could have healthcare," and "I wish I could get to my job in a decent amount of time." How messed up is our society, that these things are an impossible fairy tale fantasy? Not only that, but even if fantasias, curative magic, and aetherytes were actually real, they would be owned and controlled by huge corporations and only the ultra-wealthy could afford to use them.
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  2. #22
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    Aergrael Iyrnrael
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    Ragnarok
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    Scholar Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by DrWho2010 View Post
    uh yeah real life fantasia please! it has the power to change your appearance and still everyone else in the world retains the knowledge of who you are. lol
    Yet its usage can also be as limited as just fixing some issues.

    Obesitas, scars from injury like burning, tattoo removal, or some common plastic surgery things are all also options for people to take. This can have a lot of health benefits as plenty of risky surgery actions are now just standard.

    Those who would take a complete bonkers appearance already do that now, and usualy in a far worse way. At least with fantasias problems from that can be reversed. And even if it is something like a gender change, it at least is done properly and safely.
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  3. #23
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    hynaku's Avatar
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    Inglis Eucus
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    Cuchulainn
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    Reaper Lv 100
    I would pick a healer class for real life. Every time you get injured or sick you could just heal yourself or others. Just think if someone died you could just use raise on them.
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    Last edited by hynaku; 04-25-2024 at 09:01 PM.

  4. #24
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    Cain Andleft
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    Malboro
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    Red Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Local_Custard View Post
    I always wondered if there is healing magic fatigue or any side effects. Healing magic is quick wound healing which implies being material intensive (needed nutrients to repair damaged cells quickly etc). I remember that in parts of the game healing magic can only go so far. Though, I would probably like to hear what lore there is on this subject. Sorry, got a little in the weeds there.
    Curative magic in FFXIV doesn't prevent fatal wounds. IIRC, It's more like very good first aid by helping the body jumpstart its own healing process and expediting it. Magic will not work on targets whose lifeforce is depleted and cannot be replenished, or is suffering from a disease that will not heal naturally (terminal). For that reason, raise doesn't actually bring someone back to life, it brings someone back from unconsciousness. Weakness and Brink of Death are both states where their life force reached the absolute minimum required to stay alive. Recoverable, but just barely, and leaves the body in a state of weakness.

    That being said, Benediction is still a pretty good skill to bring over, pretty much a fix-all wound recovery skill, even if it can't remove ailments. I'd consider Esuna or Exuviation as well, but there's only so many limited status ailments you can remove (some poison debuffs aren't removeable either, so Esuna and Exuviation can't do much against fatal ailments), so I expect it has a similar effect to current medicine other than the convenience of not needing multiple types of specific antidotes and antibiotics on the spur of the moment.


    Hm. But if we had the Lost Restorative Magicks of Ronka on the other hand, that might be a different story. It might not be able to bring back the dead, but it seems to be exempt from the 'unable to heal targets whose lifeforce is depleted' rule and can remove diseases that will not heal naturally. Sounds like a boon to me.
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  5. #25
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    Saya Finwel
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    Omega
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    Gladiator Lv 90
    The inventory, imagine being able to carry so many thing without being affected by the weight or having anyone able to notice you're a walking warehouse.

    I don't know how that is supposed to work in game but damn i would love that irl
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    Kawa Tokugawa
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    How would you log out to use the Fantasia?
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  7. #27
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    Local_Custard's Avatar
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    Rhel'a Tayuun
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    Sargatanas
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fyrebrand View Post
    If given the chance to have any amazing, magical invention of our choosing integrated into real life, some of the best options are just "I wish I could be the real me," "I wish I could have healthcare," and "I wish I could get to my job in a decent amount of time." How messed up is our society, that these things are an impossible fairy tale fantasy? Not only that, but even if fantasias, curative magic, and aetherytes were actually real, they would be owned and controlled by huge corporations and only the ultra-wealthy could afford to use them.
    Fantasias can also mean free surgeries (not really surgeries since I imagine that fantasias are probably instructions for the body to change so nothing is really being cut into). Maybe I want a flat chest---
    Capitalism indeed. Most problems can be routed back to capitalism.

    Not only that, but even if fantasias, curative magic, and aetherytes were actually real, they would be owned and controlled by huge corporations and only the ultra-wealthy could afford to use them.
    scary but true. I do not want to imagine what the super wealthy would do if someone started provisioning out aetheryte tickets even if they didn't want that


    Quote Originally Posted by AnotherPerson View Post
    Curative magic in FFXIV doesn't prevent fatal wounds. IIRC, It's more like very good first aid by helping the body jumpstart its own healing process and expediting it. Magic will not work on targets whose lifeforce is depleted and cannot be replenished, or is suffering from a disease that will not heal naturally (terminal). For that reason, raise doesn't actually bring someone back to life, it brings someone back from unconsciousness. Weakness and Brink of Death are both states where their life force reached the absolute minimum required to stay alive. Recoverable, but just barely, and leaves the body in a state of weakness.

    That being said, Benediction is still a pretty good skill to bring over, pretty much a fix-all wound recovery skill, even if it can't remove ailments. I'd consider Esuna or Exuviation as well, but there's only so many limited status ailments you can remove (some poison debuffs aren't removeable either, so Esuna and Exuviation can't do much against fatal ailments), so I expect it has a similar effect to current medicine other than the convenience of not needing multiple types of specific antidotes and antibiotics on the spur of the moment.


    Hm. But if we had the Lost Restorative Magicks of Ronka on the other hand, that might be a different story. It might not be able to bring back the dead, but it seems to be exempt from the 'unable to heal targets whose lifeforce is depleted' rule and can remove diseases that will not heal naturally. Sounds like a boon to me.
    That's quite interesting lore- how are characters that were cleaved in half, burned alive, bled out, fallen into the abyss, etc brought back by raising exactly? This is more of a silly question from me because I know not all mechanics are really lore friendly (looking you, astrologian astrosigns!).

    Quote Originally Posted by Syln View Post
    The inventory, imagine being able to carry so many thing without being affected by the weight or having anyone able to notice you're a walking warehouse.

    I don't know how that is supposed to work in game but damn i would love that irl
    Just imagining the mental image of the WoL being asked to hand out a wall and then gestures "one moment" before pulling out an entire brick wall from their pocket and handing it to the other person

    Quote Originally Posted by Berkilak View Post
    How would you log out to use the Fantasia?
    I think logging out is just how you can access the character creator. Irl you would probably go somewhere private to drink your fantasia (or do it in front of your friends to freak them out). Does make me wonder if fantasias require maximum focus. You drink it, get distracted, and oops you suddenly have neon yellow hair!
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    I love the men in this game

    I finally return to the game! Current goal: getting all my jobs to 90

  8. #28
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    Vera Nova
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    Spriggan
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    Gunbreaker Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Local_Custard View Post
    Snip
    Hmmm well, you do raise an interesting point! No pun intended...
    I'd like to think that a phoenix down is abit more potent than a revive skill since you're appealing to a mythical creature all about immortality/rebirth, however I don't know if that's really how it works. While perusing the wiki I saw things like the quality/beauty of the feather might influence the blessing you get. So I wonder if you managed to find a really beautiful down feather if you'd get far better results? And what does better imply....maybe if you find a really exceptional feather you might be restored fully?

    I'm really biased towards Zenos since he's my fav, he's the only char I feel strangely connected to- his loneliness and his view on life! Though he's a total opposite of me, his hobby of hunting people aside...I find certain aspects of him to be inspiring, he's someone who is unapologetically himself, in a world where people are literally becoming undone, him of all people has the answer. I'd love to meet someone like that, as silly as it sounds, he did help me be more 'myself' and accept any quirky/weird bits about me since loving him I got alot of aggressive push back from people who hated him alot.

    Nael van Darnus [Eula], you only meet her if you have done the ARR Bahamut raids or played 1.0. She's responsible for pushing for Project Meteor and the subsequent Bozja Incident and...the end of 1.0!
    Dunno if this picture would refresh your memory?



    I think her story is quite sad, you only read about it in the Encyclopedia Eorzea, I find the fact that someone who is so grief stricken by the inability to save her brother and his subsequent untimely death causing her to abandon her 'self' and become him...and her later involvement and witnessing of the Bozja incident. I think it's not little to say her psyche is pretty ruined. I like that she rose through the ranks to be Legatus, I think at that time I knew of her, I haven't really heard of any female Legatus being around!

    I meant mass extinction as in likely immediate catastrophe/world ending scenarios! Like a meteor hitting earth..

    Hmmm, I think Thancred is a very regular guy type of person...but I haven't thought too much about what he'd do on a road trip. As for Alisaie hmm.. I can imagine them arguing in the car over music for some weird reason. I haven't been too invested in these two, but they're like 'hey I think I'd get along with these two just fine and they'd make good friends'....don't think they'd struggle in our world much though I'd imagine Alisaie would be very affected by the injustice/unfairness of our world... I can see her maybe doing animal rescue or something of the sort! She does to have a very gentle heart.

    [sorry hella long post lmao]
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  9. #29
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    Limecat Indignatio
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    Hyperion
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    White Mage Lv 90
    The elemental crystals we gather for crafting, but minus the crafting part. I just want easy access to glowing crystals I can leave around the house as decorations.
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  10. #30
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    Jumpshot Tryhard
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    Excalibur
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    Astrologian Lv 100
    Fantasia. Don't even need to think
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