Yoshida gives update on the benchmark/character creator

[Glenfiddich]

Many characters have very differently shaped mouths and an overly rounded out face, which seem to be two of the biggest contributing factors to people feeling that their characters look too different. I worry that this won’t be addressed, but I guess we’ll have to wait and see.

An Update on the Dawntrail Official Benchmark

Hello everyone, this is Naoki Yoshida,...

2. Issues Related to Certain Data and Processes

A. An issue with unimplemented high-resolution textures, including those for certain playable races.
B. An issue pertaining to special data processes.
C. An issue with necklines for playable races under certain circumstances.
D. An issue with uncorrected scaling for the mouth of certain playable races.

[Rudje]

I may main DRK but AST and DRG are my other two focal jobs so yes, I'm looking at a double whammy at this point given that my main is one of the worst-impacted faces in one of the worst-impacted races in terms of being fucked over by an arbitrary change in art style. If there isn't a big pivot over time I'm probably just going to drop my sub entirely, which would suck. I was drawn to 14 initially because of the art style, and throwing that away to chase something else that looks worse for all but a few would leave me with no other option.

And no, the limbal ring didn't get new options, they just tweaked the rendering for brighter colors so anyone who liked how the old ring interacted with the eyes is left out.

An Update on the Dawntrail Official Benchmark

Hello everyone, this is Naoki Yoshida,...

2. Issues Related to Certain Data and Processes

A. An issue with unimplemented high-resolution textures, including those for certain playable races.
B. An issue pertaining to special data processes.
C. An issue with necklines for playable races under certain circumstances.
D. An issue with uncorrected scaling for the mouth of certain playable races.

Scaling would not address several of the problems I've seen. This is likely referring to things like the buggy rigging seen in Elezen.

[Silverquick]

An Update on the Dawntrail Official Benchmark

Hello everyone, this is Naoki Yoshida,...

2. Issues Related to Certain Data and Processes

A. An issue with unimplemented high-resolution textures, including those for certain playable races.
B. An issue pertaining to special data processes.
C. An issue with necklines for playable races under certain circumstances.
D. An issue with uncorrected scaling for the mouth of certain playable races.

Well I do wonder what the unimplemented high res textures means and how it will affect it.

Right now the benchmark shows me at very high settings comfortably,
Score: 13938 Very High
1920x1080 High (Desktop) DirectX11 FSR Windowed

So obviously unimplemented high res textures will affect that.

[Katsuragi_]

Well I do wonder what the unimplemented high res textures means and how it will affect it.

Right now the benchmark shows me at very high settings comfortably,
Score: 13938 Very High
1920x1080 High (Desktop) DirectX11 FSR Windowed

So obviously unimplemented high res textures will affect that.

just textures? not in any noticeable way shape or form. at most loading times.

[Roda]

Well I do wonder what the unimplemented high res textures means and how it will affect it.

Right now the benchmark shows me at very high settings comfortably,
Score: 13938 Very High
1920x1080 High (Desktop) DirectX11 FSR Windowed

So obviously unimplemented high res textures will affect that.

I'm gonna wager it's the low res hair accessories / additional au ra hairstyle horns and miqote patterns

[Fawkes]

An Update on the Dawntrail Official Benchmark

Hello everyone, this is Naoki Yoshida,...

2. Issues Related to Certain Data and Processes

A. An issue with unimplemented high-resolution textures, including those for certain playable races.
B. An issue pertaining to special data processes.
C. An issue with necklines for playable races under certain circumstances.
D. An issue with uncorrected scaling for the mouth of certain playable races.

Does that mean Au Ra puffy lips? Lalafell tiny teeth? Moonkeeper fangs? Those all seem like they'd have somewhat different causes so I don't know if they'd all be the same bullet point about "an" issue with scaling.

[TheOperator3712]

Does that mean Au Ra puffy lips? Lalafell tiny teeth? Moonkeeper fangs? Those all seem like they'd have somewhat different causes so I don't know if they'd all be the same bullet point about "an" issue with scaling.

It could cover all of those, but the Au Ra lips are unlikely to be affected drastically by the corrections in the new version. The teeth and the lips are all part of the mouth object though, so if that was scaled incorrectly, everything would show at the wrong size.

[VerdeLuck]

An Update on the Dawntrail Official Benchmark

Hello everyone, this is Naoki Yoshida,...

2. Issues Related to Certain Data and Processes

A. An issue with unimplemented high-resolution textures, including those for certain playable races.
B. An issue pertaining to special data processes.
C. An issue with necklines for playable races under certain circumstances.
D. An issue with uncorrected scaling for the mouth of certain playable races.

The issues people are having with lips goes beyond their scaling, they were remodeled and are just different models. Them saying it's just scaling issues would imply the change in mouth style is intentional and going to be kept.

[Silverquick]

I'm gonna wager it's the low res hair accessories / additional au ra hairstyle horns and miqote patterns

Well I just cranked it up to Max settings and ran it again and it didn't drop by much and still has me in the same range.

When I crank it up to Max settings, it still gives Very High.

Score: 12875 Very High
1920x1080 Maximum DirectX11 FSR Windowed
12th Gen Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-12700H
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 Laptop GPU
https://sqex.to/ffxiv_bench_na

So I don't think its gonna kill me on the unimplemented textures.

[AirisRay]

I was really glad to know that they read feedback that we all gave about the character changes.
I'm sure that lighting will not be able to fix the problem I described, but since there were also words about mouth problems, I have some hope that the situation will improve. Therefore, of course, I will refrain from discussing it further for now. I'll wait for the updated version of Benchmark.

In the future, I will only read the Japanese forum through a translator. I was pleased to be there. And my message there did not cause any controversy at all, although it was an exact copy of the message I left here.

Here my message caused... I probably won’t even specify the type of reaction. I convey my kind greetings to all those people who "tried to help, but received only negativity in response". I sincerely hope that for the rest of your life you will receive from all other people only this type of "support", that you provided here during these days. If in your opinion it was useful, so you’ll like it.

But I want to say a big thanks to all truly kind people who really supported me here all these days <3

I'm glad that despite all the negativity, we all continued to express our honest opinions. And that we were heard. I hope that all our characters will end up looking the way we expect