Yoshida gives update on the benchmark/character creator

[ReynTime]

( Yeah, i know, some miss steps on characters doesn't make the game bad, but crying at a delay to fix things is pueril )

Poor Miyamoto. Even after the day he passes away people will continue to repeat that quote he never actually said.

[Isurith]

Poor Miyamoto. Even after the day he passes away people will continue to repeat that quote he never actually said.

That's a meme, my dude. Also he said a few times basically this, paraphrased, so even without that specific sentence being a meme, it's not far fetched.

[Rosenstrauch]

That's a meme, my dude. Also he said a few times basically this, paraphrased, so even without that specific sentence being a meme, it's not far fetched.

An interesting article on the aforementioned quote:

https://www.acriticalhit.com/solved-...me-bad-forever

The tl;dr: Miyamoto may have never said it himself, but it's a very common mantra in the video game industry dating back to the 80s.


On-Topic: Neat! This is a step in the right direction at the very least. Hopefully this also means addressing the unnecessary lip and nose modifications, too. I do so love my Lily's slanted nose—it reminds me of Kaiji Itō.

[Raim]

Remember to keep posting feedback on things like changed eye and nose shapes, Moonie fangs and the eyeliner stuff.

[Swordsman]

Does SE plan on paying us? This crowdsourced quality assurance testing is going quite well for them.

[Reinha]

Does SE plan on paying us? This crowdsourced quality assurance testing is going quite well for them.

I would make them a 2 hour powerpoint presentation for free if it meant that my character's quality was improved and not released in a whole new art style like what the World of Warcraft devs did to my nelf. Going by the quality and quantity of feedback people are giving it's clear many people want to be involved in the process. Not getting ignored is the payment.

[Luca_]

I was really happy to see the news post this morning. Will definitely be looking forward to the update.

[decomposer]

The fact that feedback is being acted upon means that it is, indeed, being seen — on social media and the forums, as cited in the release. While some of my issues extend beyond lighting, I am holding out hope that they kept the response short and sweet without detailing every single thing that they might tweak between now and Dawntrail's full release. Maybe some things like drastic changes in the face sculpts will be looked over and re-evaluated, but at this point I'm just content to know that they are reading what people are saying. So on that token, when 2.0 Benchmark is released, I hope no one is surprised when there is yet more feedback posted here in hopes of being heard.

[Erin1491]

I agree here for some things, lets say that they need to delay to make the seams go away, this is an objective issue everyone can agree on and I'd rather wait X amount of time and have seams for a decade just because we rushed them to release.

On the other hand, lets say its to rollback a change that not everyone agrees with like adding the mouth gap again to Miqo 4, just because some people think it gave it personality and now people who had vacations scheduled to coincide with release have to reschedule their vacations and also cause all sorts of delays down the release pipeline then no, that is unreasonable. Some people considered those flaws that needed to get fixed. And now they are getting put back into the game because unbeknownst to them, while they were celebrating after running the benchmark with their friends and not even checking the forums people here complained and now the game is delayed so they can put the flaw back into the game.

Something similar has actually already happened. Back at one of the fan fests they showed updates to au ra eye rings and they looked much more subtle/blended into the second color and it looked more natural. Obviously a lot of people use very contrasting bright eye rings so they offered their feedback about it.

The devs ended up rolling it back and now the eye rings are just as bright as they've been, here's the problem though. Quite a lot of people liked that change but instead of SE giving us options for both they just roll it back to appease the people who didnt like the change and the people who did like the change are now disappointed.

At the end of the day the real problem is the lack of choices in the character creator to appease everyone. There needs to be some middle ground here.

[Raim]

Just stop arguing amongst yourselves and keep posting specific, constructive feedback about changes to the shape of eyes, noses and lips. Ignore anyone who tells you to stop or says its fine.