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  1. #231
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    Vrankyl's Avatar
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    Tsenno Se'senovoto
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    Quote Originally Posted by LlymlaenGreene View Post
    No, I'm not the only one whose opinion is important and I've already said in my previous posts that I want the developers to make everyone happy! *Easier said than done, isn't it? * Those who are happy and those who are unhappy too. I mean, when you write a review here, they literally tell you, I think it's better for you * trying to fix your review*. Not everyone does this, but I've seen many such posts here. And as the user bun DiaDeem said above, I am also in favor of a closed connection, so that when I posted my review, people did not start manipulating me.
    This is an analogy about those who replace my point of view with their own, and do not add anything to it, if I wrote it correctly, of course

    I'm not going to point fingers, but in the topic where I complain, people literally pop in who make fun of our fears with memes, tell us to touch the grass, drink fanta and other delights. And it's all in an aggressive way. And therefore, to answer your question, I would prefer not the desert, no. I would prefer an oasis with people who have a constructive dialogue. Because there are a lot of great people out there who accept updates but also want solutions to our problems.

    And if you need my point of view, I naturally just want my old but improved character. To make it look the same, but with a higher texture, like HD. But let's say there is a hero with the same type of face as me and she wants to use this new, changed face that she liked. It would be rude to say that my opinion is higher than hers, because I think she has the right to it too!

    Therefore, for me, the ideal option would be to add overly modified faces as new options. New noses, lips, eyes. After all, then we would all benefit from it. So many new customization possibilities, wow! * if this is possible, of course, I am not a developer, but in this thread I saw a message from someone who works in game development and he says that this may be possible. But I do not know * * eh dreams of dreams*
    While it would be nice if there were more options, everyone keeps just saying 'just add them as options' acts as if that's an easy thing to do. This is despite CBUIII going on record multiple times stating that it is not so easy to add options to the current character creator and that in fact many races are at or near their customization limit with the current system design. So to do that they would have to over haul the current character creation system completely. Which is likely on their to do list, but is not something that can be easily done let alone this expansion.
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  2. #232
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    Moqi's Avatar
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    Goji Degotye
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ath192 View Post
    This is a bad faith reading of my post, go read it again. It baffles me that you go on about bad faith takes and make a bad faith take to make your bad faith take
    No, it's pretty accurate. Go into any thread and you'll see people commenting on other people's feedback as if anyone asked, or it mattered. You are free to leave your appreciation and leave it at that. Unless you're part of the staff, what anyone else thinks is none of your concern.
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  3. #233
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moqi View Post
    No, it's pretty accurate. Go into any thread and you'll see people commenting on other people's feedback as if anyone asked, or it mattered. You are free to leave your appreciation and leave it at that. Unless you're part of the staff, what anyone else thinks is none of your concern.
    No, its not accurate, and yeah, everyones feedback matters, and there's nothing you can do to stop people from expressing themselves here or what their concerns are or aren't. So if you want to be hostile you're just asking to receive it back.
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    Last edited by Ath192; 04-21-2024 at 03:39 AM.

  4. #234
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    Arkadya Dravena
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moqi View Post
    No, it's pretty accurate. Go into any thread and you'll see people commenting on other people's feedback as if anyone asked, or it mattered. You are free to leave your appreciation and leave it at that. Unless you're part of the staff, what anyone else thinks is none of your concern.
    Naw, it is my concern. Relevant example: I am all for people posting their benchmark feedback in the hopes of getting it addressed. The people who have called for the entire graphical update to be cancelled because their character isn't right anymore on the other hand are my posting enemies and I have a vested self-interest in them not getting their way. Just as they have a vested self-interest in wanting to cancel the update entirely.
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  5. #235
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    Freja Heleh
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arkdra View Post
    Naw, it is my concern. Relevant example: I am all for people posting their benchmark feedback in the hopes of getting it addressed. The people who have called for the entire graphical update to be cancelled because their character isn't right anymore on the other hand are my posting enemies and I have a vested self-interest in them not getting their way. Just as they have a vested self-interest in wanting to cancel the update entirely.
    Do you think devs can’t think for themselves and you need to go full pvp for opposite opinions from yours? They present their point (however radical it might seem to you) - you present yours in the relevant thread. That is all it has to be.
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  6. #236
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    Reinha Sorrowmoon
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    Quote Originally Posted by Loggos View Post
    As far as I understand the reason why the Japanese side's feedback is so orderly is not because there are no people saying "I don't like xyz". To my understading the reason is that other people let the negative feedback be and just add the positive feedback about their own characters. But others may correct me on this assumption.
    Exactly! No one is replying to people who are pleased with their character saying "actually, your updated character is hideous". And yet there are dozens of useless replies to negative/upset posts in the form of "I like your character better now" or "it looks the same to me". Who asked? Stop derailing threads and focus on your own character.

    Quote Originally Posted by Arkdra View Post
    The people who have called for the entire graphical update to be cancelled because their character isn't right anymore on the other hand are my posting enemies and I have a vested self-interest in them not getting their way.
    Posting enemies? Oh my god, grow up.
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    Last edited by Reinha; 04-21-2024 at 05:31 AM.

  7. #237
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    Airis Ray
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arkdra View Post
    Naw, it is my concern. Relevant example: I am all for people posting their benchmark feedback in the hopes of getting it addressed. The people who have called for the entire graphical update to be cancelled because their character isn't right anymore on the other hand are my posting enemies and I have a vested self-interest in them not getting their way. Just as they have a vested self-interest in wanting to cancel the update entirely.
    For the sake of experimentation, post this message on a Japanese forum. There are quite a lot of people asking for this update to be canceled or delayed.
    Publish this message word for word as you wrote here. Tell them that they are your enemies. And watch how quickly your message will be deleted.
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  8. #238
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    Shayun Ragara
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vrankyl View Post
    While it would be nice if there were more options, everyone keeps just saying 'just add them as options' acts as if that's an easy thing to do. This is despite CBUIII going on record multiple times stating that it is not so easy to add options to the current character creator and that in fact many races are at or near their customization limit with the current system design. So to do that they would have to over haul the current character creation system completely. Which is likely on their to do list, but is not something that can be easily done let alone this expansion.
    Maybe if they had ever showed interest in giving anyone but midlander Hyur more face options people would be more open to the idea that adding them is harder. But between showing recently (in relative terms) that they still have some space by adding another Hyur face and asking for more race ideas after previously saying Hroth and Viera would be the last, they're giving contradictory information and the most recent information leans more towards that they can do it and there is space.
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  9. #239
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    Mika Zahard
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reinha View Post
    Exactly! No one is replying to people who are pleased with their character saying "actually, your updated character is hideous". And yet there are dozens of useless replies to negative/upset posts in the form of "I like your character better now" or "it looks the same to me". Who asked? Stop derailing threads and focus on your own character.



    Posting enemies? Oh my god, grow up.
    Thread enemies lol! This board has it all
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  10. #240
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    Quote Originally Posted by AirisRay View Post
    For the sake of experimentation, post this message on a Japanese forum. There are quite a lot of people asking for this update to be canceled or delayed.
    Publish this message word for word as you wrote here. Tell them that they are your enemies. And watch how quickly your message will be deleted.
    Yeah, having read the entire JP feedback thread, the sentiment over there is much more negative towards the update then here, many are calling for it to be cancelled. They are also more skeptical of Yoshi-P's statement, asking well what about all the model changes, while here things have calmed down a lot.
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