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    Kaeya Alberich
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ath192 View Post

    So let me ask you then, are you the only one that matters? Do others not have any right to disagree and let the restaurant know they do in fact like the changes? Would you rather us start a million other individual threads about things we like instead of counter arguing in yours and leave the thread with the single original post and barren because you don't want anyone to comment?

    We are getting to the point where people are feeling as victims because not everyone agrees with them... And they would rather everyone shut up and silence anyone who disagrees or goes against this narrative. Rest assured this is not victimhood. It's oppression.

    There's nothing wrong with leaving feedback, but acting like others can't because your feedback is the only one that matters is wrong. No other way about it.
    Nobody has ever said people who like the benchmark result can't give positive feedback, this is such a bad faith take on the situation that it genuinely baffles me.

    There are positivity threads and there are people posting in compilation threads saying "I like my character better now" or "I like most of the things now, only this or that small thing could be better" and none of this is the point of contention.

    When people voice their concerns they generally talk about how they are unhappy with what their own character looks like and sometimes also show examples or give detailed technical feedback.

    I have only seen very few people requesting a roll-back, i.e., something which would affect those who like the benchmark.
    The most discussed active thread is literally called "Make it optional", meaning those who like it will have the option to use the new features. Whether this is technically possible is another question. But the request from the critical side is overwhelmingly "give both sides what they want if possible".

    So the correct analogy would be: the restaurant introduces a changed salad recipe and aks everybody what they think. We are supposed to give benchmark feedback.
    Naturally people will also give negative feedback.
    So some people truthfully say "I personally don't like the new salad. Please keep the tomato option, while also serving the olive option". And then those people are met with "There is no difference. You are exaggerating. I like your new salad better. People who keep posting about how they don't like their own character are whiners etc."

    Most of us literally do not want to get rid of the new options. We would just like to get updated options which preserve the spirit of the old features too if it is in any way possible. We also know there won't be a 100% translation from current features to updated features. But there is a difference between some loss due to necessary updates and completely changing certain features.

    As far as I understand the reason why the Japanese side's feedback is so orderly is not because there are no people saying "I don't like xyz". To my understading the reason is that other people let the negative feedback be and just add the positive feedback about their own characters. But others may correct me on this assumption.
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    Last edited by Loggos; 04-21-2024 at 05:38 AM.