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    Loggos's Avatar
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    Nov 2011
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    Kaeya Alberich
    World
    Twintania
    Main Class
    Pictomancer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Scintilla View Post
    Far more like -

    EN:

    Person 1: I have a problem.
    Person 2: I have another problem
    Person 3: I have a different problem
    Person 4: I don't have a problem and, if it makes you feel any better, I quite like how your character looks now
    Person 5: If you have a problem, try this: xxx
    Person 1: Stop trying to help me, this doesn't work. You're dismissing my problems. I don't care what you think
    Person 2: Don't feed the trolls, just ignore them
    Person 5: What did I do?
    Person 1: *Resort to insults*
    I'm sorry but this is incredibly disingenuous and simply warps a lot of what has been said.

    1. Many people have tried many things. Shaders, lighting, different angles etc. etc. "Stop trying to help me" is just a strawman to infantilise a big chunk of the people who you disagree with by painting them as stubborn impulsive toddlers who put their hands over their ears while the wise and mature adult says "but have you tried this". When in reality many people have meticulously documented differences, tried many different settings and possess knowledge in areas like lighting effects and 3D modeling. Some have even gone so far as to data mine to prove certain things.

    2. "I think your character looks nice" is also quite dismissive because it doesn't help anybody if someone else thinks a character looks nice. The player in question has to think their character looks nice. I also personally think a few benchmark characters look nicer according to my taste.
    However telling them will most certainly not make them feel better. It might come across as pretty patronising if someone explains in detail why they are dissatisfied and what changes they have observed only to be hit with "Why do you complain, I think this is nice." when the broader context of the discussion is "It's not that bad/It's not there. You are exaggerating/you have rose-tinted glasses on". That is just another brand of "you are being irrational".
    It can also come across like "Now your character looks better. If you like your old one then you have bad taste bc the old one is objectively worse."
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    Last edited by Loggos; 04-19-2024 at 11:12 PM.