Yoshida gives update on the benchmark/character creator

[Berkilak]

The more people discuss the trolls, the more reason they have to do so.

[LlymlaenGreene]

It may have actually been addressed at this point, since I reported it and don't remember which thread it was, but it was someone being really racist about the JP forums actually behaving like a properly moderated forum.

I hope you don't mean my posts, since I also discussed Japanese forums and their polite mentality.

[Moqi]

This is a bad faith reading of my post, go read it again. It baffles me that you go on about bad faith takes and make a bad faith take to make your bad faith take

No, it's pretty accurate. Go into any thread and you'll see people commenting on other people's feedback as if anyone asked, or it mattered. You are free to leave your appreciation and leave it at that. Unless you're part of the staff, what anyone else thinks is none of your concern.

[Ath192]

No, it's pretty accurate. Go into any thread and you'll see people commenting on other people's feedback as if anyone asked, or it mattered. You are free to leave your appreciation and leave it at that. Unless you're part of the staff, what anyone else thinks is none of your concern.

No, its not accurate, and yeah, everyones feedback matters, and there's nothing you can do to stop people from expressing themselves here or what their concerns are or aren't. So if you want to be hostile you're just asking to receive it back.

[Arkdra]

No, it's pretty accurate. Go into any thread and you'll see people commenting on other people's feedback as if anyone asked, or it mattered. You are free to leave your appreciation and leave it at that. Unless you're part of the staff, what anyone else thinks is none of your concern.

Naw, it is my concern. Relevant example: I am all for people posting their benchmark feedback in the hopes of getting it addressed. The people who have called for the entire graphical update to be cancelled because their character isn't right anymore on the other hand are my posting enemies and I have a vested self-interest in them not getting their way. Just as they have a vested self-interest in wanting to cancel the update entirely.

[SongOfTheWind]

Naw, it is my concern. Relevant example: I am all for people posting their benchmark feedback in the hopes of getting it addressed. The people who have called for the entire graphical update to be cancelled because their character isn't right anymore on the other hand are my posting enemies and I have a vested self-interest in them not getting their way. Just as they have a vested self-interest in wanting to cancel the update entirely.

Do you think devs can’t think for themselves and you need to go full pvp for opposite opinions from yours? They present their point (however radical it might seem to you) - you present yours in the relevant thread. That is all it has to be.

[AirisRay]

Naw, it is my concern. Relevant example: I am all for people posting their benchmark feedback in the hopes of getting it addressed. The people who have called for the entire graphical update to be cancelled because their character isn't right anymore on the other hand are my posting enemies and I have a vested self-interest in them not getting their way. Just as they have a vested self-interest in wanting to cancel the update entirely.

For the sake of experimentation, post this message on a Japanese forum. There are quite a lot of people asking for this update to be canceled or delayed.
Publish this message word for word as you wrote here. Tell them that they are your enemies. And watch how quickly your message will be deleted.

[Tethan]

For the sake of experimentation, post this message on a Japanese forum. There are quite a lot of people asking for this update to be canceled or delayed.
Publish this message word for word as you wrote here. Tell them that they are your enemies. And watch how quickly your message will be deleted.

Yeah, having read the entire JP feedback thread, the sentiment over there is much more negative towards the update then here, many are calling for it to be cancelled. They are also more skeptical of Yoshi-P's statement, asking well what about all the model changes, while here things have calmed down a lot.

[Mika_Zahard]

Yeah, having read the entire JP feedback thread, the sentiment over there is much more negative towards the update then here, many are calling for it to be cancelled. They are also more skeptical of Yoshi-P's statement, asking well what about all the model changes, while here things have calmed down a lot.

Calmed down? You meant NA is overdosed on hopium, while JP understood that the bench changes are gonna be lightning changes, and not the model ones. Just wait till the LL when Yoshi P will have to cry again on stream because they'll either have to delay DT or delay the model changes till 7.1

[Yencat]

Does anyone honestly believe that they didn't expect there would be a community freak-out? People that think this is a completely shock for them and they're now shaking in their boots before the mighty forum goer (JP or otherwise) are really gassing themselves up too much. Every single game that has done a graphical upgrade that includes the player models has gone through this, there's no way they weren't prepared for this to happen.

I would guess that they will fix the lighting issues in the next benchmark update, probably fix the things that are very obviously bugs before launch at the very least, and maybe some player feedback that was a genuine oversight. But at some point they have to rip off the band-aid and get it out the door so everyone can try it for themselves without the benchmark restrictions, and at least somewhat get used to the upgraded player models and how they actually look out in the world.

I'm sure they will continue to collect feedback and work on whatever they deem necessary, but there's no sense in putting something like this off forever because it will never be "perfect".