Quote Originally Posted by Jessica_VS View Post
I'm just playfully teasing you about the logical fallacies (ad populum, post hoc ergo propter hoc, appeal to emotion, black or white fallacy, and circular reasoning) in the original post.

I like the visual updates. But . . . 1, correlation does not equate causation (high sales and active discussion do not necessarily validate the quality of the update); 2, restating the assertion that it's a big deal does not make it more (or less) true; 3, this is an appeal to achievement/difficulty, because it's equating sales numbers/difficulty with metrics for success and hard work which don't address the quality of the visual update itself (for instance, it may be really difficult to film a complex and incomprehensible "high art" movie, but that doesn't mean it's necessarily beloved by audiences).
I get you, I have time too today. But if you're going to take the opposing side for fun you need to provide evidence that counters the argument. So if you want more specifics I would reinforce the points and expect you to come up with evidence of your own that points to the contrary, not just speak vaguely.

1. I feel like you are shifting the goal post, for one the point you made was never about the quality of the update, rather whether this level of chatter happens over trivial things, to which I pointed it does not by citing thread counts and sales numbers. I would like to see you post evidence to the contrary, perhaps 100 threads about some trivial topic would be a good start.
2. Perhaps, so let me assert differently, it is a big deal because Square Enix spent a significant amount of time in their three fan fests talking about the graphical updates, hired new graphical engineers to get this project done, and has made it a major tenet of its marketing strategy to date. If anything the amount of money invested in creating both the change and marketing of this feature should signal just how important it is to SE for its customers to know this graphics update is happening. The community likewise has talked extensively about and made large quantities of feedback, reinforcing evidence that this feature is a big deal to them and they have become aware of SEs efforts.
3. "Quality" was never an argument made in this post, and unfortunately the way you are using it with the example of "high art" means it's completely subjective as art can be both high and low quality depending on who is judging it. I made an argument for value, backing it up with engagement and sales numbers as evidence that their work has been valuable. So I would need evidence to the contrary that what they have done has not created any value. As quality was never discussed, it's a moot point.