Reddit vs. the Forums in the Graphics War of '24

[Zen_Zaal]

A big part of too is the absence of the old downvote counter and post hiding so you only have widely accepted posts up top with no real room for any discussion. Things people are even slightly divided on or want to discuss openly will never have as much visibility as a meme about grapes for example.

The tread I made on the skin issues with the new update, had only 150 ish upvotes, but 70% of the 130k people who did vote, upvoted the post. Opinions on there are just not as black and white as it seems is all, it's just how reddit is designed.

[Raim]

Turns out the forum "whiners" were completely right and a ton of things in the benchmark were broken and unfinished. This is exactly why you give feedback.

[Joltik]

This is the only official forum to give feedback. They didn't provide a place to give feedback within the benchmark or game, so it makes sense people flood here with their complaints or criticism.

People on twitter are begging people to make a thread here to be heard by devs cause twitter gets you no where. People going to reddit aren't there for visibility to the Devs.

Hell the only reason I'm here rn is for feedback. I don't post in the forums otherwise, cause I'd rather take to reddit or twitter for general discussions.

[Sandoria]

Reddit and the forums are run by a different set of rules and expectations. Reddit tends towards creating echo chamber communities as people fear the dreaded downvote. The forums on the other hand has a large population that treats it like a complaint department; Some of the feedback is insightful and incredibly helpful and others are personal opinion or lack foundation altogether.

The Benchmark is going to be polarizing as it made some characters look incredible while others lost important details. Certain assets lost detailing and are extremely disappointing to those of us that use those traits. What that Benchmark did to my own Viera's lips was horrifying. Looks like they are in the process of cleaning things up however, and I like to think we will all have graphics that make us happy here in short order. Feedback works but it works best when it's helpful.

[VerdeLuck]

It is pretty funny to see the Reddit narrative swap in real time.
Yesterday it was "It's just lighting and catchlights, there's no issues, you're stupid." and now that SE has actually addressed and acknowledged the issues noted by feedback it's "Ok there was some stuff but it's almost all lighting and besides you guys are being dramatic about it by giving feedback like this, think about the devs."

Just absolutely no introspection, no thoughts going through their head about why they were wrong in how they acted to shut down criticism and gaslight people who had tangible things to criticize. Just immediately moving to the next rung on their argument when they're shown wrong.
A perfect example of why Reddit is a terrible social media site for any type of discussion or feedback.

[rawker]

As people have already said, myself included, Reddit is an echo chamber and a place where circle-j****** is rampant. Any disturbance to it, they will gang up and spam downvotes 'til your karma is negative.

[Supersnow845]

As people have already said, myself included, Reddit is an echo chamber and a place where circle-j****** is rampant. Any disturbance to it, they will gang up and spam downvotes 'til your karma is negative.

Fun fact no matter how many downvotes you get you can’t lose more than 15 karma from one post

[rawker]

Fun fact no matter how many downvotes you get you can’t lose more than 15 karma from one post

Oh. I don't know that. Learned something new.

[Swordsman]

It is pretty funny to see the Reddit narrative swap in real time.
Yesterday it was "It's just lighting and catchlights, there's no issues, you're stupid." and now that SE has actually addressed and acknowledged the issues noted by feedback it's "Ok there was some stuff but it's almost all lighting and besides you guys are being dramatic about it by giving feedback like this, think about the devs."

Just absolutely no introspection, no thoughts going through their head about why they were wrong in how they acted to shut down criticism and gaslight people who had tangible things to criticize. Just immediately moving to the next rung on their argument when they're shown wrong.
A perfect example of why Reddit is a terrible social media site for any type of discussion or feedback.

Lmao true. The current thread on /r/ffxivdiscussion is a battlefield right now. https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxivdiscus...ial_benchmark/

[GrizzlyTank]

Guess my hunch with the lighting in the eyes was appropriate.