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    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    Housings biggest feedback from day 1 was “make it instanced” they have literally ignored the most common feedback about housing since day 1 and dance around it because they themselves have said they like the neighbourhood feeling, when was the last time someone praised the neighbourhood feeling of the houses

    Same as tanks and healers, they had the same feedback in SB, “I don’t like losing damage to perform my core function and relying excessively on the party to help me achieve the core function. In response they nuked agro out of the tanks and designed healers like they are playing a different game and satisfaction crashed on those jobs going into ShB, yet they did not reverse course at all

    At best they overcorrect in response to poorly constructed feedback then refuse to backtrack on the over correction at worst they just ignore feedback and implement their vision anyway. You also said “feedback to Kaiten wasn’t strong enough to reverse course. Was there a single shred of positive feedback on the Kaiten changes”, if there was why didn’t they mention it, all they said was “give it a try you might love it anyway”
    Apartments are the compromise they came up with for instanced housing. You can think this sucks, and honestly, I would agree, but you can't say they ignored it.

    You have 0 evidence that a satisfaction crash ever happened. You at best have anecdotal evidence that people on this forum have been posting angrily about it but this forum doesn't represent even 1% of the active playerbase. Regardless, your feedback has not been ignored, the 340 page thread named Yoshi-P: "If you want more engaging content, go play Ultimate" came about from him directly addressing healer feedback. In a way that you can find unsatisfactory if you are so inclined (and I'd also agree it's a shit answer), but it's not ignored.
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    Andreas Cestelle
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arkdra View Post
    Apartments are the compromise they came up with for instanced housing. You can think this sucks, and honestly, I would agree, but you can't say they ignored it.

    You have 0 evidence that a satisfaction crash ever happened. You at best have anecdotal evidence that people on this forum have been posting angrily about it but this forum doesn't represent even 1% of the active playerbase. Regardless, your feedback has not been ignored, the 340 page thread named Yoshi-P: "If you want more engaging content, go play Ultimate" came about from him directly addressing healer feedback. In a way that you can find unsatisfactory if you are so inclined (and I'd also agree it's a shit answer), but it's not ignored.
    Would you prefer I link you the job satisfaction surveys going into 5.x that saw AST and SCH go from middle of the pack to last and second last and for DRK and WAR to crash near 10 spots each or does that also not count as evidence

    Again it circles back to the point that people on the forum way too easily resort to “let’s just assume I’m right because there isn’t overwhelming evidence to the contrary”

    And are you really going to argue that a shit compromise nobody actually likes counts as valid response to feedback rather than actually implementing the feedback
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    Last edited by Supersnow845; 04-18-2024 at 07:56 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    Would you prefer I link you the job satisfaction surveys going into 5.x that saw AST and SCH go from middle of the pack to last and second last and for DRK and WAR to crash near 10 spots each or does that also not count as evidence

    Again it circles back to the point that people on the forum way too easily resort to “let’s just assume I’m right because there isn’t overwhelming evidence to the contrary”

    And are you really going to argue that a shit compromise nobody actually likes counts as valid response to feedback rather than actually implementing the feedback
    Yeah, post the surveys. lmao at trying to be disparaging towards needing actual evidence for things, that's classic official forum posting right there. Like my anecdotal evidence is I play a dps and if tanks and healers vanished my queue time would be insufferable. But they are better now than they were prior to shb so you're going to need to give me some hard data. Preferably something more recent than some survey from 5.x but I will take what you got.

    And yeah, they listened to the feedback and implemented a change based on it and have continued to implement more and more stuff as time has gone on to try and appease the playerbase with regards to housing because they value the non-instanced experience for... some insane reason. I don't get it either. I've owned a house since they let individuals buy them and I have had 0 experiences with anyone else in my wards. Other than being furious at the guy with a dozen namazu statues in their yard making a racket and making my local auction board basically unusable.

    I'd bet money on they don't want to pay for that and don't want to deal with the blowback from outright saying it, if I had to guess.
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    Last edited by Arkdra; 04-18-2024 at 08:21 PM.