Reddit vs. the Forums in the Graphics War of '24

[Somnolence]

If only there were people whose job is to gather data, discern what's meaningful and present it to the devs...

Yeah they are called Community Managers and seem to be completely MIA for FFXIV

[Sated]

The official forum is the main avenue for players to leave feedback for the FFXIV teams, and people don't often go out of their way to leave feedback unprompted when they're happy. We're in the complaint box.

Reddit is just a chat room full of players talking with other players.

[GrizzlyTank]

Lot's of people that likes to hop on "Realistic lighting > stylize lighting" completely ignoring the clear advantages of having it stylized...

And the stylization I'm talking about is nothing more than what this dude uses Catch Lights: An Easy Cinematic Tip. Yeah the new lighting does have reflections in the eye, but it's gotten too faint and relies only on the sky rather than the camera so unless you are zoomed in or looking at a specific angle they won't show.

[NanaWiloh]

Oh god reddit..here we go. I am just going to observe and make no further comment here.

[TheOperator3712]

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I wonder why the two have such different perspectives. Hopping between both Reddit and here is like visiting alternative realities.

r/ffxiv is a curated community, and one that is the textbook definition of toxic positivity. Any and all negativity or discussion has been consistently and methodically pruned and suppressed from that subreddit for years. So it isn't surprising, to me at least, that it would be overwhelmingly positive. It's a hivemind of FFXIV positivity, of course it was going to be positive. The devs can do no wrong in the minds of the people that flock to r/ffxiv.

Now that is not to say that I am disgruntled with the graphical updates, truth be told I'm just fine with how they have turned out and think most of the reactions here are overblown. All I'm saying is, it is or at least was fairly commonly known that r/ffxiv had this reputation of being a fluff subreddit and that if you wanted "meaningful" discussion about the game or its issues you either go to r/ffxivdiscussion or here.

[mallleable]

/r/ffxiv, and /r/ffxivdiscussion have been directing most graphics update feed back here because the devs don't read reddit. That's why there is hardly any graphics update discussion happening there.

[Lyth]

The graphics are improved, but the art style is where it's falling short in a lot of cases. It's the latter that determines how well the graphics will age over time. Your textures and meshes don't matter if you don't have the fine anatomical details down right, and that's why player feedback on this is important. If anything, it's a testament to how good the art style was on some of the originals. They need to maintain that art standard on the new models.

Reddit isn't an ideal place for such a discussion because threads have a relatively short lifespan and not everyone is going to have an opinion on a Face 4 Highlander. At least in here, the relevant designer can see what recommendations players are making on their specific designs, and some of the feedback is actually really well articulated/drawn out with face maps and such. This is the most productive that I've ever seen this subforum.

[HeyMcFly]

Yoshi-P has stated they don't take feedback from reddit seriously or consider it

[Supersnow845]

Yoshi-P has stated they don't take feedback from reddit seriously or consider it

Square enix needs to come out and admit where they actually pull feedback from because it doesn’t seem to be anywhere. Reddit and twitter get outright ignored while the white knights tell people to come to the forums, people come to the forums and get radio silence while we continue to spin round the same 5 topics they refuse to acknowledge

Then people say go to the JP forums and then they seem to ignore that as well, the JP forums didn’t like Kaiten or the healer reworks or the simplicity of modern SMN, they got ignored as well


At this point just tell us to put up and shut up if they won’t take feedback from us anywhere, even their own channels

[CidHeiral]

Square enix needs to come out and admit where they actually pull feedback from because it doesn’t seem to be anywhere. Reddit and twitter get outright ignored while the white knights tell people to come to the forums, people come to the forums and get radio silence while we continue to spin round the same 5 topics they refuse to acknowledge

Then people say go to the JP forums and then they seem to ignore that as well, the JP forums didn’t like Kaiten or the healer reworks or the simplicity of modern SMN, they got ignored as well


At this point just tell us to put up and shut up if they won’t take feedback from us anywhere, even their own channels

They have made changes as a direct result of feedback from all over so I would assume they look at various social media channels, they just don't announce "thank you citizen we have received your request."