Level 50 alliance raids

[Nubb]

Please for the love of Hydaelyn remove level 50 raids from the roulette, I'm so sick of getting these terrible raids over, and over, and over, and OVER. Honestly, this has been a problem for far too long, remake the raids or remove this trash from the roulette.

You could offer me an instant level 90, you could offer me capped Tomes, no amount of rewards would be worth pressing a single button over and over and over on what essentially are target dummies for 30 mins.

Why are the devs so adamant on keeping these trash 10 year old raids in rotation with no changes? Do they even listen to player feed back? I mean genuinely, this has been a recurring issue for English speakers for a long time, the oldest post I found was about 4 years ago, but all they did was remove the IL reduction trick. Wow amazing, thanks so much for that, is what I would be saying if there was actually any noticeable difference in how often I get these brain dead raids. Anyway, my 30m timer for leaving the dungeon is up, perhaps this time I will get placed into a raid where I can actually press more than two buttons (but I doubt it).

[Supersnow845]

They won’t fix them because they decided to make them required for the MSQ and the capped playerbase is meaningless when compared to shoving more people through the MSQ

[Lily_Winde]

This is the exactly same complaint I've done in another thread. I'll repeat it here.

Hello, I'm a new player. I've been playing this game for 1 month and a half, I'm lvl 90 and I've finished the Endwalker MSQ. I'm loving the game, but there are some issues that me and my friends that just started playing as well, believe needs a improvement badly.

Crystal Tower alliances and all dungeons and trials from level 15 to 60 needs a reword badly. Everything is so easy, happens so fast, that I don't even understand what's going on. I just run like everyone else. It gets to the point that's boring and blunt. There's no emotion, no reason to run those dungeons AT ALL since everything dies so easy and fast. Please, consider increasing the difficulty from everything 15-60. The way it is today makes me wanna quit the dungeon just after I get inside and see is one of those boring ones, that me as a healer can fall asleep doing it.

[Eastwall]

Lol. They can't even add a rival wing roulette and a 5v5 roulette. I wouldn't expect them to have the "resources" to separate crystal tower into its own thing

[MistakeNot]

Please for the love of Hydaelyn remove level 50 raids from the roulette, I'm so sick of getting these terrible raids over, and over, and over, and OVER. Honestly, this has been a problem for far too long, remake the raids or remove this trash from the roulette.

You could offer me an instant level 90, you could offer me capped Tomes, no amount of rewards would be worth pressing a single button over and over and over on what essentially are target dummies for 30 mins.

Why are the devs so adamant on keeping these trash 10 year old raids in rotation with no changes? Do they even listen to player feed back? I mean genuinely, this has been a recurring issue for English speakers for a long time, the oldest post I found was about 4 years ago, but all they did was remove the IL reduction trick. Wow amazing, thanks so much for that, is what I would be saying if there was actually any noticeable difference in how often I get these brain dead raids. Anyway, my 30m timer for leaving the dungeon is up, perhaps this time I will get placed into a raid where I can actually press more than two buttons (but I doubt it).

If you don't want to get those raids, don't run alliance roulette. It is as easy as that.

The whole point of the roulettes is to provide people to fill whatever instances need people, so those who want to run a specific instance can easier do so.
The roulette rewards is essentially a bribe to make people run the same old instances over and over and over just to provide warm bodies for instances.

[Doozer]

If you don't want to get those raids, don't run alliance roulette. It is as easy as that.

The whole point of the roulettes is to provide people to fill whatever instances need people, so those who want to run a specific instance can easier do so.
The roulette rewards is essentially a bribe to make people run the same old instances over and over and over just to provide warm bodies for instances.

It clearly doesn't work as intended when 90% of the raids are CT and when I've queued for alliance raids directly, it can take over an hour to get in, or never at all. Like 6 months ago I did an experiment and queued for Paradigm's Breach as a DPS and after 7 hours of waiting I had to give up.

It disproportionately favours lower content because that's what more people have unlocked, but it causes higher level raids to never fill. To say this is by design is to say the design is flawed.

[Ancalagon_Blacktalon]

I'm curious how to roulettes work re: prioritization of duties? it is on a first-come, first-served basis? (eg, someone queues up for CT, five minutes later another person queues up for Puppet's Bunker, and the first one gets filled up first)

But also, everyone who has ever queued up for alliance raid, by default, is Lv50 or higher, so CT has the highest possible pool of "possible" users to stick in its raids, whereas Lv90 or Lv80 raids have fewer possible players to do so. So it might be better to actually weight which duty you get put in via your character level - for instance, maybe looking at all waiting duties and just picking the highest level one I can do regardless of where it is in the FCFS queue. Buuut that might also make it harder to complete CT, which is mandatory.

...so then IMO the best solution is to make CT not suck. It really does need to be upgraded from the ground up, and honestly I feel that Lv50 character actions need to be moved around a bit too because they feel extremely incomplete in ways that Lv60 or Lv70 sets of actions just don't. DNC doesn't even get Dance Partner until Lv60!

[Jojoya]

Do they even listen to player feed back? I mean genuinely, this has been a recurring issue for English speakers for a long time, the oldest post I found was about 4 years ago, but all they did was remove the IL reduction trick.

So you know that they do listen to feedback in that case. Players told them that the only reason that CT would come up so often in Alliance Roulette was because there were players ilvl cheesing to force CT to come up and that adding in an ilvl requirement would fix the problem.

The developers added in the ilvl requirement as the players requested. It did not end up fixing the problem just as many of us had predicted.

The main point of roulettes is to make certain that players doing content for the first time are able to get groups. While personally I think that CT should be placed in a roulette of its own, the developers don't seem to be interested in doing that.

If you hate CT that much, the simple choice is do not queue for Alliance Roulette. We've got plenty of options for earning XP and tomestones so Alliance Roulette isn't needed.

If you still want to be doing other Alliance Raids, direct queue for them instead. The developers did increase the base rewards for them at the same time they made the ilvl change. Want something on the random side? Create your own mini-roulette when you queue by selecting up to 5 of your favorites so the game will place you into one randomly.

You have the ability to fix your complaint. I would suggest doing it.

Like 6 months ago I did an experiment and queued for Paradigm's Breach as a DPS and after 7 hours of waiting I had to give up.

Don't queue for a single Alliance Raid. Queue for multiple. The game will place you into the first available one, just as it does with the Roulette, but you won't have to worry about it being CT.

[MistakeNot]

It clearly doesn't work as intended when 90% of the raids are CT and when I've queued for alliance raids directly, it can take over an hour to get in, or never at all. Like 6 months ago I did an experiment and queued for Paradigm's Breach as a DPS and after 7 hours of waiting I had to give up.

It disproportionately favours lower content because that's what more people have unlocked, but it causes higher level raids to never fill. To say this is by design is to say the design is flawed.

If the higher level raids never fill, it is because nobody queues for them. But that does not match my experience. Running Alliance Roulette I get one of the CT raids about half the time, and about half the time one of the others.

[Doozer]

Don't queue for a single Alliance Raid. Queue for multiple. The game will place you into the first available one, just as it does with the Roulette, but you won't have to worry about it being CT.

I think you're misunderstanding. There's reason for doing alliance raid roulette, that you can't get by queuing for things directly. But it skews so heavily towards CT that people directly queuing for higher level raids sometimes never get in. How is that a difficult concept to understand? If I join a roulette it's because I want to fill slots within all the content available, not just do CT every day when I know people also queue for 60/70/80 alliance raids.

If the higher level raids never fill, it is because nobody queues for them.

I queue for them, for glamours, and I know other people do too. It's just not enough people to enter with just that, hence what the roulette is for. Like I said in the post you quoted, I queued for Paradigm's Breach for 7 hours straight. I was in the queue, uninterrupted, for 7 hours. I didn't get in because the alliance raid roulette didn't fill in the rest of the slots and instead just dumped people into CT or something else lower level. I know there's at least 23 other people on my data center queuing for alliance raid roulette at any given time, so why didn't it ever pop for me? Answer that.