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    Player Bun_Vivant's Avatar
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    Bun Vivant
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fawkes View Post
    I don't know -- the characters I have now and love don't have ten toes.
    I'm not sure I like this change.

    Yes, I'm joking.
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    Suri Obinata
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    Cuchulainn
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    White Mage Lv 84
    Congratulations to the two of you for having Prosopagnosia I guess (though I wouldn't wish it on anyone). "The main symptom of prosopagnosia is having difficulty recognizing faces. You'll still see the parts of a face normally, but all faces may look the same to you." Taken from https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/face-blindness/
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    Luluna's Avatar
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    Luluna Eve
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    Thaumaturge Lv 100
    I am glad you have posted this as it takes me back to 1.0 and how lovely the characters looked. I am quite happy with the update as It is a little more like it was. The cartoon look is what we got for ARR and it really did make a lot of 1.0 players think wtf happened?

    My character who I loved was gone and that was a massive blow and to be honest it kind of annoyed me but we just had to take the free fantasia and accept it. I managed to make a few characters that I love and I do fantasia a little more and I feel it is because I miss my 1.0 cat but I always felt she just did not port the way I remembered her.

    I think there needs to be a few tweaks but to be honest they look nicer and my Husband said to me when I had my laptop open "What is the difference?" lol

    I do understand there are slight changes the lip gloss is what I am wanting fixed and the Moon keeper teefs they need fixing that is quite bad.

    I will make a proper comparison when I get onto my PS5 wish they had done a CC as more players do play on consoles now. I do hope they don't change it back as it is a improvement. I was able to make Hyur and a lovely Moon cat and Au ra. The lighting is doing a lot of things also as when in Gridania guild she looked more or less herself but with her hair sleeker and skin.
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    Sinophea Fallensight
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    If you compare lalafell's eyes between 1.0&EW&DT will know that in fact ARR-EW are more closer 1.0 than DT. The new eyes are too dark...not a good idea indeed
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    Kaeya Alberich
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    Twintania
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    Pictomancer Lv 100
    I'm asking genuinely and not to be aggressive or provocative but is it possible to get a bigger picture?

    Because even though this is 4k, at max size I can still only moderately zoom into the picture and a lot of face details are lost.
    The thing is, the devil is in the details because we are talking about shape changes in lips and eyes. Those are harder to pick up from a distance but in close-ups they have a visible impact.

    That said even with the picture in the OP I believe I already see some feature differences between 1.0/ARR (those seem consistent with each other from what I can see) and DT which go beyond lighting. Namely the shape of the eyes and the fullness of the lower lips (but this one is hard to discern with certainty without a larger picture). I've also loaded the image into Photoshop and traced the eye shapes which confirms my initial impressions.

    I don't have time to post links right now bc work. I'll try to get around to it later. My apologies for that.

    I believe this is the same base face they used for Y'shtola btw and if you look at her in 1.0 cutscenes I feel like you can see that her lower lips are not actually as wide (horizontally speaking) as the DT model. I have looked at most of the miqo feedback and the Y'shtola face is not brought up very often. Other miqo faces have clearly been changed which has been shown repeatedly. Perhaps the Y'shtola face dodged a bullet.

    Some people have said after all their own characters don't seem very different. I believe that.

    That doesn't undo all the other examples players have shown that very clearly demonstrate differences in face shapes that are not lighting, both on the English and the Japanese forums.

    Also, even if DT and 1.0 are closer to one another (which I'm not convinced of atm) this doesn't do anything for players of newer races like au ra or viera.
    Players have very clearly shown how their viera and au ra models do not look the same, with facial features being completely changed. My chars don't even look like their old selves from a distance. I can spot it right away because they have given them a complete lip job among other things. :/
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    Last edited by Loggos; 04-16-2024 at 06:29 PM.

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    KhujaRela's Avatar
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    Khuja Rela
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    Moogle
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    Dancer Lv 63
    I'm sorry to be a bit offtopic, but there is something that's been bugging me since I saw the first videos of 1.0 I feel they tend to be more realistic, and also the Elezen were better proportioned?? I saw Mother Myoune to look much better in 1.0, and with narrower shoulders (in my personal opinion)

    I wonder why this changed so much with A realm reborn? I don't say I like ALL better in 1.0, I certainly not (since I prefer less realism in general, I like more colorful and stilized worlds). It's because the engine or change artistic direction? If someone knows...
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    Luluna Eve
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    I am unsure why they changed it so much but it was a downgrade....the way characters ran moved everything hair physics. I think a lot of people could not run the game at the time due to the specs it required. My Husband who played at the time said to me oh it wont be much different....his face when he logged in was one of complete shock.
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    Katarh Mest
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    Lamia
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    Warrior Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Luluna View Post
    I am unsure why they changed it so much but it was a downgrade....the way characters ran moved everything hair physics. I think a lot of people could not run the game at the time due to the specs it required. My Husband who played at the time said to me oh it wont be much different....his face when he logged in was one of complete shock.
    It was this. Our PCs today could have handled it, but in 2010 they could not. The same computer that had been running FFXI without any problems choked and died on 1.0, and it only became playable for me after I put in a newer GPU. There were many things 1.0 did better than ARR, but when I rolled into ARR alpha I breathed a sigh of relief because the whole thing felt so much more VIBRANT compared to 1.0. Y'all think ARR can be washed out? 1.0 was in pastels in comparison.
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    Aries Helle
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    Quote Originally Posted by Loggos View Post
    I'm asking genuinely and not to be aggressive or provocative but is it possible to get a bigger picture?

    Because even though this is 4k, at max size I can still only moderately zoom into the picture and a lot of face details are lost.
    You're not, what you were asking was a really hard request, here it is though. I have also updated the Thread front post with it. I hope this provides you the details you need and helps everyone else make feedback or compare.



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    Kokiche Verden
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    Bard Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Ath192 View Post
    You're not, what you were asking was a really hard request, here it is though. I have also updated the Thread front post with it. I hope this provides you the details you need and helps everyone else make feedback or compare.



    Remember to right click and open in new tab.
    This is so crazy jarring to look at. The lighting and model changes in the benchmark do such an insane disservice to literally every single one of these - they all look completely stripped down of defined features.They just look extremely dull and lack any sort of depth. The clothing texture improved though lol.
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    Last edited by GreenLeafy; 04-17-2024 at 07:00 AM.

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