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    Why are hrothgals shorter than hrothguys?

    I haven't seen folks talk about this very much (either here, on Reddit, or on Twitter) but I'm very confused about hrothgal height. Hrothgals cap out at 78.5 inches (199.39cm) while hrothguys reach a height of 83.8 inches (212.85cm) and I'm just overall extremely baffled by that decision. With how hrothgals are treated in the lore, much of the community naturally came to assume that they'd be taller than hrothguys, especially since they lack the same shrimp posture their male counterparts have. It's honestly a little disappointing. I don't think it'd be too much to ask for them to be at least as tall as femroes (87.7in / 222.76cm) or even slightly shorter (maybe around 85in / 215.9cm)?
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    So how someone's been treated in lore is reflected on ones height?

    Like you said, the community assumed something.
    And simply because it wasn't like so it's somehow wrong?


    -Edit due to post limit-

    Quote Originally Posted by IcarusAvery View Post
    I'm also referring to stuff like the Bozjan murals, wherein the depiction of female hrothgars has them look absolutely towering.
    There are real life murals where people are depicted a lot taller than others.
    Many believe it was a way to show that they are of greater status, not that they might actually be taller.

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    Last edited by Evergrey; 04-16-2024 at 05:16 AM.

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    It's certainly a shame that Hrothgar lean so hard into the World of Warcraft flavor of sexual dimorphism.
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    From what I read they are treated so well because females are very rare... nothing to do with their height. I'm not opposed to letting them be taller but I don't see how one leads to the other.
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    Male Hrothgar are already shorter than Roes, male Aura and female Viera, even with when standing straight. For a natural vanguard of the only real beastly race in the game they're barely big enough as is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LilimoLimomo View Post
    It's certainly a shame that Hrothgar lean so hard into the human flavor of sexual dimorphism.
    Fixed that for you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Evergrey View Post
    So how someone's been treated in lore is reflected on ones height?

    Like you said, the community assumed something.
    And simply because it wasn't like so it's somehow wrong?

    I'm also referring to stuff like the Bozjan murals, wherein the depiction of female hrothgars has them look absolutely towering.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IcarusAvery View Post
    I'm also referring to stuff like the Bozjan murals, wherein the depiction of female hrothgars has them look absolutely towering.
    Probably just a stylistic/propaganda thing. Make the more powerful one loom over the weaker ones to show dominance and all that. It's kind of why I actually am on board with the males' posture being explained as an expression of submission? To like force themselves to look up to the smaller females? Sad that the females don't seem to have a (default) slouch as drastic as the males (though there is a bit of a tall person slouch), but it would also explain why the slouch on the males looks less bestial and more.. meek? I guess that's how you could describe it.

    Like if you look at the slouching males next to the females, you can see their posture brings them in line with or even lower than the females.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GrizzlyTank View Post
    Fixed that for you.
    We must live in different parts of the world; where I live there are certainly on average some physical differences between men and women, but on average men don't have chests that are twice the width of a woman's.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GrizzlyTank View Post
    Fixed that for you.
    while they cn overlap, male lione are on avergae a foot longer and a hundred pounds hevaier than females

    https://imgur.com/a/rk9VN7a
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    Last edited by 4clubbedace; 04-16-2024 at 05:38 AM.

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