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    Quote Originally Posted by seolhyun View Post
    maybe ramuh, shiva, leviathan after phoenix? but also fester and painflare have lightning in them already so it could just be an upgrade for one of those.
    Fester and Painflare both display the blue Ability whirl. The action in the benchmark does not.


    Quote Originally Posted by GrimGale View Post
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    Leading up to EW, Yoshi-P dodged the pressure of being the one to choose the JP tier V spell suffix for all of Final Fantasy for the rest of all time by just calling Fire V and Blizzard V the FF-coded equivalents of High Fire II and High Blizzard II. If this spell isn't Burst it'll probably just be High Thunder II or III, though it could be something not called Thunder at all a la Despair.
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    Quote Originally Posted by seolhyun View Post
    maybe ramuh, shiva, leviathan after phoenix?

    it's the good time for me to drop this game
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    that SAM Skill looks like a Single Target Ogi.. but the Cone Effect at the end is strange
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    Regarding SMN, as people pointed, it could either be FesterII or Ramuh.

    FesterII would be the most reasonable approach. It's a single animation, probably doesn't need much dev developpement and it's kind of overdue.

    However, we do not see Carbi. It could be during that very short window of time where you're in between 2 summons and its not there... or as people have suggested, Ramuh.

    Ramuh would imply a whole new set of 3 summons.

    With their new system, it is totally possible, afterall why not? Unlike the old system where you could choose which pet to keep, you're forced to go through all summons now so there's no pointless summon.
    However it would be rather costy in term of game developpement, we're talking 3 whole new set of animations. 3 new tiny rotation, that's a lot.

    SMN currently suffers from being too simple, so that could very well be a way of addressing it.
    Ramuh, Leviathan are a given, but Shiva? Like, we never really "kill" Shiva. Also Shiva is quite different from the others as she's never a proper summon, more a transformation. How would she be treated? Do we go into "Shiva's form" like the repear goes into emo-mode ?

    This is definitely the coolest approach but I'm quite skeptical, that would be A LOT of ressources for one job.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rongway View Post
    Fester and Painflare both display the blue Ability whirl. The action in the benchmark does not.



    Leading up to EW, Yoshi-P dodged the pressure of being the one to choose the JP tier V spell suffix for all of Final Fantasy for the rest of all time by just calling Fire V and Blizzard V the FF-coded equivalents of High Fire II and High Blizzard II. If this spell isn't Burst it'll probably just be High Thunder II or III, though it could be something not called Thunder at all a la Despair.
    Pretty much spot on regarding the Thunder name.

    There is a good chance this is actually "Burst". Burst is the thunder-type spell equivalent of Flare, Freeze, Tornado, Quake, Flood, Holy and Doomsday (names taken from various FF and Bravely titles). Already exists in PvP, with a slightly different animation.

    Of course chance it could just be "High Thunder IV" (implying there is also a High Thunder III) but I hope for better. Would be nice if BLM finally had the thunder equivalent to Flare and Freeze.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rongway View Post
    Fester and Painflare both display the blue Ability whirl. The action in the benchmark does not.
    well it could be reworked also and not even function the same.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SargeTheSeagull View Post
    My predictions:

    RPR- You know how during enshroud you use 2 GCD's and follow it up with an OGCD? Same concept but for communio. If you play it back really slowly you can see communio's particles on the mob before this animation plays.
    I'm curious if this only consumes the final job action or if it'll be like RDM.
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    I wouldn't be surprised if Communio can now be used at any point in enshroud without ending it and the new skill is the finisher. It would give you a bit more flexibility to choose when to cast.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rongway View Post
    Fester and Painflare both display the blue Ability whirl. The action in the benchmark does not.



    Leading up to EW, Yoshi-P dodged the pressure of being the one to choose the JP tier V spell suffix for all of Final Fantasy for the rest of all time by just calling Fire V and Blizzard V the FF-coded equivalents of High Fire II and High Blizzard II. If this spell isn't Burst it'll probably just be High Thunder II or III, though it could be something not called Thunder at all a la Despair.
    "Burst" is the FFXI name of the lightning elemental ancient magic, like "Flare" is for fire and "Freeze" for ice.
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    Sage has failed to live up to the fantasy of a sci-fi DPS healer. Please change this for 8.0. Make Sage fast, exciting, and aggressive. It should feel like a healer that plays like a DPS. Empower the aspects of Sage's unique healing mechanics: Kardia and Eukrasia to give its healing playstyle more identity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by seolhyun View Post
    maybe ramuh, shiva, leviathan after phoenix? but also fester and painflare have lightning in them already so it could just be an upgrade for one of those.
    The thing is that the lightning at the end of the animation is very reminiscent of Ramuh's thunder orbs seen even in his ShB fight.

    Quote Originally Posted by SargeTheSeagull View Post
    SMN- Similar animation and sfx as fester but with a thunder effect. Possibly this is what fester becomes when you summon Ramuh? Could just be a fester upgrade.
    Maybe they made the awkward Fester/ED interact with the summons, which would be lovely becasue those actions feel like a relic of the past that doesn't fit the new SMN anymore.
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