New DPS skills

[Sequora]

yes I think it's Fester II unless summon Ramuh momentarily changes Fester and Painflare to an "electric" version

I hope that at least one new summon is included... and I think this expansion is the last hope to see it

I’m gonna be really angry if after they gave summoner a “new base”, and the only meaningful upgrade we get is a new animation and potency boost for fester lol.

[RyuuZero]

my Idea for a SMN Change would be to be more like FFX SMN or FFXVI, where you transform into the Summon or take more direct control over it.

[rawker]

I’m gonna be really angry if after they gave summoner a “new base”, and the only meaningful upgrade we get is a new animation and potency boost for fester lol.

Well... people asked for that.

[RulerOfPotaoes]

SMN could actually get a capstone lv100 OGCD nuke type of skill that's available to use after a full Bahamut and Phoenix rotation. Might be something like a channel Ramuh nuke.

I just see them prioritizing fixing/adding more to SMNs simplicity, by updating current skills and adding a big new flashy skill at lv100. Over adding 3 new summons and keeping SMN as it is.

[Sylvain]

SMN could actually get a capstone lv100 OGCD nuke type of skill that's available to use after a full Bahamut and Phoenix rotation. Might be something like a channel Ramuh nuke.

I just see them prioritizing fixing/adding more to SMNs simplicity, by updating current skills and adding a big new flashy skill at lv100. Over adding 3 new summons and keeping SMN as it is.

The issue is, why would "Ramuh" be such a powerful skill compared to any other summon?
Like, it doesn't make much sens.

I'm convinced it's just FesterII too, they'd never showcase a "big main" skill on that. If we do keep Ramuh, or 3 new summons, it's gotta be in the skill showcase.

The issue with introducing Ramuh, to me, would be that it should be a minor summon like Garuda, Ifrit and Titan.
If you add 1 minor alone, it doesn't fit anywhere in the rotation unless it does something like "replace your next summon by Ramuh".

But then, if you add Ramuh, why just Ramuh? Why not Leviathan and Shiva to complete the 6 elements.

This could fit neatly, Bahamut > Garuda/Ifrit/Titan > Pheonix > Ramuh/Levi/Shiva and add some complexity to that job.

What would need to be considered is the dev cost. 3 new stance would probably be costy, we're still talking about at least 3 new animations, possibly more.
On top of that, there'd be the issue of Shiva.

Lore wise, you do not summon shiva, you become shiva. Therefor, what would make the most sens would be that shiva becomes a Reaper like ability where you assume Shiva's form.
But this would probably be very costly in term of developpement.

I agree with you when you say, they'd probably priortize adding more to smn simplicity.

Personally, assuming 3 extra summon would be impossible, I'd go for Pheonix and Bahamut having an extra button to make the burst phase less brain dead.

[RulerOfPotaoes]

Oh I used Ramuh as an example. But im definitely leaning toward a Big Boom OGCD at lv100 with more stuff added to SMNs simplicity.

3 different summons after Phoenix would be nicer tho.

[MitsukiKimura]

I'm hoping that reaper skill is a upgraded aoe skill and not the level 100 skill. More than likely it will be used before communio so expect a 6 dot bar

[Reflear]

I can't imagine that no new summons will be implemented for level 100.
A summon has been added in every expsansion (if we exclude HW's Bahamut trance)

HW: Bahamut Trance
SB: Demi-Bahamut
ShB: Demi-Phoenix
EW: Ifrit / Titan / Garuda

so I can deduce that something will be added in this case too... not just upgrades to existing spells

[Sylvain]

I can't imagine that no new summons will be implemented for level 100.
A summon has been added in every expsansion (if we exclude HW's Bahamut trance)

HW: Bahamut Trance
SB: Demi-Bahamut
ShB: Demi-Phoenix
EW: Ifrit / Titan / Garuda

so I can deduce that something will be added in this case too... not just upgrades to existing spells

I mean... If you consider Ifrit / Titan / Garuda to be a new summon, then they can simply upgrade their visual furthermore and make them look like the one in Eden's raid.
Level 90 skill is litterally a visual (and potency) upgrade.

Only SB and ShB had new summons, that's it.

I really hope we get some new summon, but saying our lv 90 skills are new summons is really something I wouldn't agree on.
It's by far the laziest lv 90 skill/upgrade among every single job.

[Raikai]

Somebody datamined the Benchmark and posted a pasterbin, on ffxivdiscussion subreddit, of just some strings of code.

I'm taking with a grain of salt because stuff changes, but according to the posters who can read more into those strings, SMN seems to be getting a new Demi after Firebird Trance, and it seems to be a new version of Bahamut, SolBahamut or somethign like that lol. And nothing related to new gemstones. As well as potential unkown upgrades to Fester and Searing Light.