7.0 Graphics Update - Midlander F feedback

**noumen0nn** · 04-18-2024 01:00 PM

Originally Posted by Antiora

I will also post my WoL with her happy smile showing slightly some teeth....and the new, sadder one:

http://imgur.com/a/aSSYBtA

i dont know how to post only pictures...sry

That's a REALLY stark difference, wow. Which mouth option is that?

**Antiora** · 04-20-2024 04:28 AM

Originally Posted by noumen0nn

That's a REALLY stark difference, wow. Which mouth option is that?

Head 5, mouth 1

**Fleur** · 04-20-2024 04:51 AM

Originally Posted by Antiora

I will also post my WoL with her happy smile showing slightly some teeth....and the new, sadder one:

http://imgur.com/a/aSSYBtA

Thank you for posting this! Though I am generally happy with my face 5 Midlander (I like the brighter eyes and the skin texture) the mouth is a sticking point for me. It took me awhile to put my finger on why she looked more serious, and your pictures show it well. I agree that it looked better just a bit upturned.

As an aside, this doesn't seem to be an issue that is unique to this face; a lot of mouths seem to have gone from very slightly upturned to straight, giving characters a more solemn, less friendly look. I hope this will be fixed! I mean, isn't Dawntrail supposed to have a lighter tone? Would be a shame to lose our smiles for it.

**AdlerTakamura** · 04-20-2024 03:06 PM

Just asking for Face 1 to have actual colored eyebrows like Face 5...
Can Face 1 have actual depth in the eyebrows, too?

**juicybug** · 04-20-2024 08:43 PM

Originally Posted by SuriKett

I am also incredibly upset with these unnecessary changes as a face 1 midlander.
No matter the lightning/angles or gamma correction i try to view her, in the benchmark character creation or in the benchmark itself, i find her new changes very unappealing

The update makes her look like rubber. Her skin + the shine added make her look very flat & dull. Almost pallid.
They REALLY need to rework the darker skin tones. (all skin tones)

**juicybug** · 04-20-2024 08:51 PM

After the benchmark I immediately changed from Midlander F to Miqo F.

I had enjoyed the more angle features on my middy F in the current state of the game (I wanted my WoL MidF to resemble Ashelia with a pointy European like nose & high cheekbones) but the update softens them too much & takes away those angles. Idk if catlike is the word for face type 1, but that's the word I will use for now.

The update widens their noses on face 1 & eyes (making them appear surprised) rather than just giving us a lip & skin texture/coloring update. I don't see how this is an upgrade. Just moved it from one corner to the next without any purpose.

-All of the skin tones on Midlander are flat & dull I might add.
-Dark skin tones are awful looking in the update.
- No natural flush, no natural contouring & all of the angles are soft & sort of melted down.

The graphical update gives them a muted, waxy & dull appearance. While the original has a brighter face for all of the faces on midlander F.
I'm not any type of skin expert but I am a portrait artist & imho to improve the midlander skin tones, they just needed some better brows & lip textures + some skin shading & flush.
Skin is not one tone or color. It has many colors within it. While it would be too much of an ask to go and re-color all skin tones to appear with more depth; a little shading, natural highlight & flush tones here & there would go a long way.
Adding a shiny unwashed oily look does not = an update to me.
They look almost silicone or hollow now. As I said earlier, waxy.

**Yencat** · 04-20-2024 08:53 PM

Originally Posted by AdlerTakamura

Just asking for Face 1 to have actual colored eyebrows like Face 5...
Can Face 1 have actual depth in the eyebrows, too?

Personally I'd really prefer it if they didn't match eyebrows to hair color. It somewhat works in the image you linked, but as soon as your skin and brow color match too closely they go invisible again.

It would be nice if they added some more depth to the individual hair strokes of eyebrows in general, and even better; allowing everyone to choose the eyebrow color separately would solve a lot of these issues.

**juicybug** · 04-20-2024 09:05 PM

Originally Posted by Yencat

Personally I'd really prefer it if they didn't match eyebrows to hair color. It somewhat works in the image you linked, but as soon as your skin and brow color match too closely they go invisible again.

It would be nice if they added some more depth to the individual hair strokes of eyebrows in general, and even better; allowing everyone to choose the eyebrow color separately would solve a lot of these issues.

I think it should be a separate choice option. Leave it for those who want it, but have it to be optional for those who prefer not to have it.
Just like when choosing two different eye colors or highlights for hair. Let it be a toggle.

**AdlerTakamura** · 04-21-2024 05:30 AM

Agreed on both of you. My middie has pale skin and orange hair, but black-ish eyebrows. I wish I had the OPTION to have also orange eyebrows.

Currently, Face 1 eyebrows do change their hue depending on hair color, but you have to really squint your eyes to see it, and depending on the skin/hair combination, the results can be really bad.

**Swordsman** · 04-21-2024 05:49 AM

Originally Posted by Mercelia

These changes were the most obvious to me on my own character: the larger nose bridge, the exaggerated eyeliner, and the shape of the lips. Despite what some may think, it really changes how the character looks.

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