7.0 Feedback - Male Midlander

[Wasselin]

I thought my eyebrows were gone on the benchmark but yours really are gone. My hope is that they just didn't have time to really work on fixing these and they are already aware of this issue because it's very different.

[heroism]

link to the screenshots in a larger format, I didn't want to post 1920*1080 images https://imgur.com/a/I6Rysv6

I've been trying to figure out exactly the issues that make my character look so unrecognizable and I think I finally have an idea. I understand that face 7 is the Hiroshi/Meteor face, and has always had some more (albeit faint) aging details than face 5. However, I feel as if the aging effects come off a little too strong. My character in particular is meant to be older, but this has aged him significantly. When I first fantastia'd to this face in 6.0, it was because I wanted the older appearance of Hiroshi/Meteor from the 5.0/6.0 trailers, not the 7.0.

• The tear duct on 7.0 face feels incredibly sharp compared to the 6.58's rounder one. I feel like this, along with the darker waterline gives the impression of a sterner expression.
• 7.0 cheeks have a sunken in effect, which adds to the more aged up look.
• The 7.0 mustache has a different shape than 6.58 version, along with the beard not appearing as dark, leading to (as some have mentioned) the beards almost disappearing with lighter hairs.
• The lips have a pallid appearance, and the upper lip looks thinner.
• No screenshot, my apologies, but the beard mesh clips underneath the jaw. This can be seen in their standard idle pose in the character creator.
• My biggest issue - and this is across races and not just for Midlander - is that the sclera feels too bright, too white and along with the new eye catch, the eyes look like marbles. They also slightly change the eye color to feel lighter.

There are some features I do like however. The addition of the nasolabial fold, for example! The eyebrows feel more filled out, which seems to be a rare change as many eyebrows look thinner. I can see the translation of features, how the nose and (mostly) the mouth carried over. The eye shape (sans tear duct and the waterline) carried over down to the eyelid. The under eye wrinkles, the crows feet. I love these features. But with the addition of the skin texture, he's giving "forgot to wear sunblock at the beach a few too many times."

[Luca_]

I actually don't mind how my middy turned out (aside from the eyebrows) but what's with the weird flat seam across his mouth and the two dark notches beneath his lip?

[Mirikh]

I'm mainly upset with the loss of my eyebrows and facial hair. Something about the face 5 for Midlander male also looks older to me, but I can't put my finger on what is causing it.

Here is an example: https://imgsli.com/MjU1NjE2

That's a great side by side comparison and a good summary of some of the general issues I've seen. It's not just the facial hair. The DT face looks flatter and washed out or over-exposed to me. The shape of the nose is different, the jaw looks rounder. It's not a "bad" face but if I could characterize it I'd say it looks generic rather than customized. I feel the same about my Elezen.

[Wasselin]

Yes, I feel my midlander has a much edgier appearance thanks to the washed out look. His face looks less warm and open and he just looks tired. Perhaps appropriate given everything the warrior of light has gone through, but not exactly what I have grown used to.

[cutestfox]

I actually don't mind how my middy turned out (aside from the eyebrows) but what's with the weird flat seam across his mouth and the two dark notches beneath his lip?

Similar but more severe mouth dint has been modeled into miqo face 3 also, it looks absolutely bizarre