We need to compromise as a player base

[noumen0nn]

I’m sorry, but I don’t agree. People have every right to express their upset, and it is not our job to tone police ourselves so that the devs don’t get scared of trying new things. Many people, myself included, are extremely unhappy with how our characters look, and nebulous ideas about “bringing the game into the future” are not worth the heartbreak of feeling like you’re losing a character you’ve grown attached to for years. Update the graphics, sure, but don’t take our characters from us.

[NanaWiloh]

I’m sorry, but I don’t agree. People have every right to express their upset, and it is not our job to tone police ourselves so that the devs don’t get scared of trying new things. Many people, myself included, are extremely unhappy with how our characters look, and nebulous ideas about “bringing the game into the future” are not worth the heartbreak of feeling like you’re losing a character you’ve grown attached to for years. Update the graphics, sure, but don’t take our characters from us.

Then dont get upset when they dont try new things.

[noumen0nn]

Why are you assuming I would? I would RATHER they change nothing that make bad changes. I’m really sorry that other people having negative feedback to give bothers you so much.

[NanaWiloh]

Why are you assuming I would? I would RATHER they change nothing that make bad changes. I’m really sorry that other people having negative feedback to give bothers you so much.

Negative feed back doesnt bother me. But the game being stagnate does and this game is stagnate and needs to send some lambs to the slaughter.

[noumen0nn]

I truly don’t understand what your goal is here. You have been all over every single thread about the graphics update for hours now, repeating the reminder that adjustments will be made before release while simultaneously attempting to shut down or belittle any criticism being offered. Where do you think the final adjustments are going to come from if not from player feedback?

More to the point, if you’re going to take the attitude that displeasing a large portion of players is some sort of necessary sacrifice, I have no further reason to engage with you. Let’s not even get into the implications of you telling me, even metaphorically, that I need to be led to slaughter.

You are accomplishing nothing except being rude and unhelpful. My condolences to anyone else who has to put up with it today.

[Ath192]

I’m sorry, but I don’t agree. People have every right to express their upset, and it is not our job to tone police ourselves so that the devs don’t get scared of trying new things. Many people, myself included, are extremely unhappy with how our characters look, and nebulous ideas about “bringing the game into the future” are not worth the heartbreak of feeling like you’re losing a character you’ve grown attached to for years. Update the graphics, sure, but don’t take our characters from us.

They didn’t take your character from you. When looked at objectively, if you showed the two pictures of your character to a third party that does not play this game and told them they were the same character they would believe you without thinking twice. People are just pixel peeping. So yes, there are subtle differences but I do think they were trying to be faithful to the original low res character.

Further more, it is absolutely worth the heart break of losing a low resolution character when the new one looks similar enough if it means the game will look better over all and attract new players and stay fresh. After all very few people would keep playing the game if everyone quit, and that’s exactly what happens to most outdated games.

So again, provide your feedback about what you would like to see but look at the larger picture. They are VERY similar. If they had to rework assets in the characters I’m sure there were reasons for the differences, adding polygons will slightly alter looks, the person who designed some features originally may no longer be there and the new designer rebuilt the asset in a way they thought was similar, etc etc…

The characters look undeniably similar. I saw you on another page here accusing someone else of being rude, all that’s being asked is that you don’t be rude to the devs and be understanding.

[noumen0nn]

They didn’t take your character from you. When looked at objectively, if you showed the two pictures of your character to a third party that does not play this game and told them they were the same character they would believe you without thinking twice. People are just pixel peeping. So yes, there are subtle differences but I do think they were trying to be faithful to the original low res character.

Further more, it is absolutely worth the heart break of losing a low resolution character when the new one looks similar enough if it means the game will look better over all and attract new players and stay fresh. After all very few people would keep playing the game if everyone quit, and that’s exactly what happens to most outdated games.

So again, provide your feedback about what you would like to see but look at the larger picture. They are VERY similar. If they had to rework assets in the characters I’m sure there were reasons for the differences, adding polygons will slightly alter looks, the person who designed some features originally may no longer be there and the new designer rebuilt the asset in a way they thought was similar, etc etc…

The characters look undeniably similar. I saw you on another page here accusing someone else of being rude, all that’s being asked is that you don’t be rude to the devs and be understanding.

I actually did show my comparison screenshots to several of my friends who don't play the game, and all of them had pretty much the same reaction I did. Furthermore, I really need everyone in these threads to please differentiate from expressing upset and being rude. Saying I hate the changes is not rude. Dismissing people out of hand, like the person I was replying to was doing, is. I just made my own topic going over the minute details that I take issue with, so you're welcome to comment on my feedback there.

[Ath192]

I actually did show my comparison screenshots to several of my friends who don't play the game, and all of them had pretty much the same reaction I did. Furthermore, I really need everyone in these threads to please differentiate from expressing upset and being rude. Saying I hate the changes is not rude. Dismissing people out of hand, like the person I was replying to was doing, is. I just made my own topic going over the minute details that I take issue with, so you're welcome to comment on my feedback there.

I would like to see the wording because if you led them on as to what to look for or what your grievances were it may have impacted their perception because when I showed the picture of your character in the thread you made to an unsuspecting person this is the response I got:



I will translate for you:
"It looks like a vampire that belongs to the aristocracy."

There is no mention whatsoever of hey thats not the same character or are you sure? They look kind of different to me. He did not question the fact he was looking at the same thing in both pictures. This comparison definitely passed the stranger test with flying colors.

[Fuyume]

I would like to see the wording because if you led them on as to what to look for or what your grievances were it may have impacted their perception because when I showed the picture of your character in the thread you made to an unsuspecting person this is the response I got:



I will translate for you:
"It looks like a vampire that belongs to the aristocracy."

There is no mention whatsoever of hey thats not the same character or are you sure? They look kind of different to me. He did not question the fact he was looking at the same thing in both pictures. This comparison definitely passed the stranger test with flying colors.

Not the original person you were replying to, but I showed my character to my husband with the before and after and he said it looked like she was constantly holding air in her cheeks. So sure, same character, but also not looking the same. And I'll be walking through DT with her looking like she's holding her breath with these round cheeks and dimpled mouth corners.
https://imgur.com/a/ne2RiCu

[Ath192]

Not the original person you were replying to, but I showed my character to my husband with the before and after and he said it looked like she was constantly holding air in her cheeks. So sure, same character, but also not looking the same. And I'll be walking through DT with her looking like she's holding her breath with these round cheeks and dimpled mouth corners.
https://imgur.com/a/ne2RiCu

It's hard to know if the light is reflecting like that because in both pics 2 and 3 you have a light source shining directly on your character (sun and the CC studio light) and picture 1 doesn't. Try changing the skin color one tone down in the character creation. It may make it a lot close to the OG. The problem too is the hair isn't the same, and where the hairline starts/recedes does changing the perceived facial structure of an individual so this one is harder because there are more variables to take into account.

Confronted with this situation I would definitely try a darker skin tone and make a comment about how the lighting is reflecting the skin as others have, but I would still feel the update was a net benefit and not asking for rollbacks and delays as some people seem to be.

Even in the current game I can make my character look downright awful in really bright lighting conditions.