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    VerdeLuck's Avatar
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    Ymir Bombullshale
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    White Mage Lv 100
    I guess it wouldn't be the officials without some armchair programmers/artists/designers coming out ot the woodwork to tell people giving honest feedback that they need to shut up and take whatever slop SE puts on their plate.
    Counter-feedback threads getting made to try to refute feedback players are giving, threads about how there's too many feedback threads.
    It gets so tiring after a while.
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    BokoToloko's Avatar
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    Boko Toloko
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    Shiva
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    I get the transition didn't land right with some people but calling for a total rollback would be the height of folly. For my part, I think I've mostly been winning with the graphical updates, since many of the things I found jarring about my femroe are finally fixed. Things like the weird coloring of the lips, the HORRENDOUS ears, pale eye shadow.

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    Benchmark


    And from what I've seen so far, the fairer skin colors have been the ones to win the most with the upgrade.
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    Last edited by BokoToloko; 04-15-2024 at 11:01 PM.

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    Aelin Ashriver
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    Zodiark
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    Monk Lv 100
    People want certain things back and I see no reason why we can't have those added back as extra options and the current looks be kept as well. I don't expect next expansion to have another new race, I hope they take the time to add more options to existing races from now on.
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    Ymir Bombullshale
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aelin_Ashryver View Post
    People want certain things back and I see no reason why we can't have those added back as extra options and the current looks be kept as well. I don't expect next expansion to have another new race, I hope they take the time to add more options to existing races from now on.
    I'm not waiting till 8.0 with my character looking like this.
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    Souljacker's Avatar
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    Last Hero
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    Coeurl
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    Thaumaturge Lv 90
    Well, so far all I've seen is constructive criticism from lots of users with details and screenshots. This forum doesn't have the sort of whining that plagues other forums - Steam for example. The players have been thoughtful and constructive and posts like this, passive-aggressive "both sides" attempting to appear reasonable as if this just isn't the time to air grievances and the players need to take a step back, well I don't think that's very helpful at all.
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    Raim Surion
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    Balmung
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    Marauder Lv 100
    I am not sure if people saying "It looks the same. It must just be the lighting." are being disingenuous or blind. They have completely changes mouths, noses, fangs and in some cases eye shapes on many faces. Its not people being 'confused' by lighting.
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    Rexipher Evergrey
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    Odin
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Raim View Post
    I am not sure if people saying "It looks the same. It must just be the lighting." are being disingenuous or blind. They have completely changes mouths, noses, fangs and in some cases eye shapes on many faces. Its not people being 'confused' by lighting.


    Obvious sarcasm aside, yes, models have had changes in certain things, like nose, lips, etc.
    But light and shadow can have a big part in how something looks.
    And comparing the light/shadow from live version and the benchmark, the benchmark one doesn't look finished to me. Feels like there's something missing or something.
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    Teno Gestalt
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    Moogle
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    Sage Lv 100
    Devs know that people criticize because they love the game and want it to be better, not out of pure malice. They won't say "fk this, we give up on the graphics", on the contrary.

    Especially since most of the complaints have a rather elaborate reasoning behind them, it's not just some random baseless trashing.
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    Kitty Kattie
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    Siren
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    Gladiator Lv 2
    Personally, I think the super legitimate concerns are the different lip shapes and some minor, peculiar details like Hellsguard noses, umbral rings, etc., being not *quite* right. The waxxy skin could use another pass, but it looks fine in most lighting and just kinda off in some. Net positive overall imo. The character creator does admittedly do a horrible job of showing off the character. Benchmark is much better, but problems still remain for a lot of people.

    tbh, this was kind of always going to be inevitable. It happened from 1.0 to ARR, and if we lived in some alternate reality where we were going from DT to ARR graphics, all the threads would be about how bad the textures are and how the pixels can be counted lol. Yoshida and the team are CERTAINLY taking feedback, tho. They want people laying out their issues and concerns. I have no doubt the plan was to always monitor the situation, and I would be shocked if they don't address it during the upcoming live letters and media tour.
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    Alexia Kusanagi
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    Odin
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    Bard Lv 90
    I suppose for me I care more about gear then my face and hair so if I am changed il just alter it or fantasia its no Biggy for myself. However some people here are clearly very attached to that characters and some have validity to their statements and some I think are being way beyond nitpicky. The big one I know that won’t be addressed is the eyes because they’ve now put in a dynamic shine which means they will only have that old look when they look near the sun or light source.

    I think what they’ve done for the most part is actually upgrade things and yes they are upgraded, more polygons on the face hand and feet. Shaders and textures have increased clearly it’s just how those said shaders react with the new lighting. There is room for improvement of course and that will happen but there is going to be some understanding needed from the community I think. They said they want to keep them as close as possible… which a lot are but we shall see
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