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    Hyrist's Avatar
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    Lin Celistine
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    Quote Originally Posted by Krausus View Post
    but you have the attitude of putting the group before yourself which is good, I'm specifically talking about folks that refuse to play any other class because they only want to play one class. I guess DRG is a bad example since it is good in just about any situation. Hamlets come to mind though which DRG is completely useless in.
    But you do understand that I only want to play one class (at least, battle class) Right? I'm just willing to take that consequence if my specialization becomes unusable.

    But the point of the game's content is to be accessible to all classes. If Dragoon is useless in Hamlet, then there needs to be something done to give Dragoon a use there. It does not have to be optimum, but the opinion should never be "Don't ever take [ x battle class] into [y event]." It can be a matter of who has an easier time, that's fine, but a person who sticks it out should still be able to be of use, instead of being completely useless.

    Of course, by the time I get interested in Hamlet, I personally won't have a problem, as I'll have a DoH/DoL job to use. (I don't consider them to be classes worth exclusions.)
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    Crimzon Sol
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    Dragoon Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Krausus View Post
    but you have the attitude of putting the group before yourself which is good, I'm specifically talking about folks that refuse to play any other class because they only want to play one class. I guess DRG is a bad example since it is good in just about any situation. Hamlets come to mind though which DRG is completely useless in.
    Lol what? Dragoon is a beast in hamlet and our LS used one regularly when farming 60k chests. So much easier to have 1 DD in charge of burning down the special weapon mobs to 5-10% health then leading them to die to archer NPCs so poison can be reapplied ASAP. DRG PLD WHMx2 DoHx2 DoLx2 is a great setup.
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    If you don't want to be forced then make your own party, if its not your party then its up to the leader on how they want to run it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chardrizard View Post
    If you don't want to be forced then make your own party, if its not your party then its up to the leader on how they want to run it.
    Hi, you appear to not understand how the FFXIV community works nor do you appear to understand how people work.
    This can be compared to (but not equatable to by far) sexism. "If you don't like that you can't vote, move to a different country."
    Now you have something to base how others view discrimination of varying degrees, have a good day.
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    Evercy Warclan
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    Just looking at the responses makes me wanna fight Ifrit as a DRG. Unfortunatly I can't just because I'm 1 of 2 WHM for primals in my LS
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    Y'ahte Tia
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    Zalera
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    Quote Originally Posted by NintenPyjak64 View Post
    Just looking at the responses makes me wanna fight Ifrit as a DRG. Unfortunatly I can't just because I'm 1 of 2 WHM for primals in my LS
    Ifrit(Hard) on Dragoon is pretty cool, actually. I can only claim to have a single victory on it, because i'm ALWAYS getting exploded by eruptions/plumes/dashes (that is my own damn fault, i'm bad at it). One thing is that you can actually avoid plumes essentially every single time because they don't spawn around his feet, where you're most likely to be at.
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    Velhart Aurion
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    Quote Originally Posted by AmyNeudaiz View Post
    Hi, you appear to not understand how the FFXIV community works nor do you appear to understand how people work.
    This can be compared to (but not equatable to by far) sexism. "If you don't like that you can't vote, move to a different country."
    Now you have something to base how others view discrimination of varying degrees, have a good day.
    Uhh, what?

    You get hired for a job. The boss tells you what you need to do, because he runs the place. You don't like it. So what do you do? You either deal with it, go find a job that caters to you, or start your own business where you can make your own rules.

    Is this the analogy you were looking for?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Velhart View Post
    Uhh, what?

    You get hired for a job. The boss tells you what you need to do, because he runs the place. You don't like it. So what do you do? You either deal with it, go find a job that caters to you, or start your own business where you can make your own rules.

    Is this the analogy you were looking for?
    No, this is more along the lines of "Oh, you want to work for me? Oh, I'm sorry you're black. I don't hire blacks."
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    Eliseus Kayne
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    Quote Originally Posted by AmyNeudaiz View Post
    No, this is more along the lines of "Oh, you want to work for me? Oh, I'm sorry you're black. I don't hire blacks."
    No, lol, stop being wrong all over the forums please. Though I do say you are very useful for a good laugh.
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    Velhart Aurion
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    Quote Originally Posted by AmyNeudaiz View Post
    No, this is more along the lines of "Oh, you want to work for me? Oh, I'm sorry you're black. I don't hire blacks."
    Wrong again.

    That statement is true if you didn't let someone in because they were Lalafell, race makes no difference in job performance.

    Would you hire a plumber to fix your electricity?
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