Graphical Update Thread: Midlander Hyur

[Esmoire]

Other than my gripes with the eyes being a bit different, my hyur looks really good!





Didn't really like the sharp edges on the lips and wanted to see him look quite worn in-game anyways.

(Though now come to think of it, I might have to play with the skin tone a little to match the original more, though it'd be a bit tricky for me. Hmmm...)

He looks great!

[Glacierre]

I dislike the changes on my female midlander.



A. I do not like the freckles they have added to her face. She is not supposed to have freckles. Please remove them or make them toggleable!
B. Her lips have changed to be considerably less interesting. The longer line on her upper lip was her charm point. In general there were more curves and grooves in her original lips.
C. Her nostrils are bigger and wider. It makes her nose look more bulbous. I think this is a lighting issue because at 3/4 angle it looks okay.

Also, I believe this is already being addressed, but I think the permanent catchlight needs to stay. This is an anime game so I don't think the new eye lighting is necessary!



Thank-you for your time.

[Rein_eon_Osborne]

I just found out the existence of this thread today & wanting to contribute my own. Normally I'd just link my own post from another larger thread (it's quite long so I'll keep it hidden):

The overhaul definitely upsets me in plenty ways. OP have raised many of my current issues so I'm just going to add my comparison pics plus few comments on my own.

First, the pics themselves.

Today (taken in Aesthetician, and changed hairstyle because unlockable hairstyle aren't available):


And this is from Benchmark (copied 1 to 1 from saved appearance feature in login screen):


I... am speechless. He's a totally different character.
[-] Waxy/"Ken doll" skin texture. Quite possibly due to the skin translucense issue.
[-] His cheeks. The addition of nasobial folds immediately destroys his 'youthful look' and now he's like 15-20 years old to the future lol. Additionally, these same folds seem to also look more prominent on darker skin tone so my man is more affected vs those who has lighter skin tone.
[-] His lips, particularly the philtrum (upper lips) are thinned beyond recognition. Today we have "Average, Fuller, Puckered, and Thinner". In the benchmark it becomes "Thin, Fuller, Puckered, and Thinner".
[-] His eyes shape. Today's he's got a rounder shape. In the benchmark the shape is more oval/flat, completely butchering his 'Mr.Goodie two shoes/Innocent'-looks.
[-] Eyes are also missing today's catchlight texture would left him looking 'soulless' in places without proper lighting.
[-] His nose bridge. Benchmark's version shrunk it. I don't remember wanting a plastic surgery lol. I'm not sure about other nose options but those wouldn't alleviate how his face contour has been forcefully changed.
[-] Inconsistent shade of color on skin, lips, & hair. It looked like the only way for me to get what I wanted is to make them darker by 1 square but this might also impose an issue to my already established glamour aesthetic on him over the years. As a gpose & glamour enthusiast, this is a HUGE impact.
[+] Upside? His stubble now follows his hair color proper instead of staying black all the time. Might still want to make them look more defined though 'cause at the moment they look like some dried crusty something plastered on his chin.

A gem of a finding though... let's have a closer look to his stubble.

Today:


Benchmark:

"Oh my-- what the-- omg honey what happened to you???"

Yeah... so what's with that oddly cut stubble underneath his chin?

Oh yeah! Did I mentioned of having to change his hairstyle? Yes I did! This is what he looks like proper:


Please also, add the option to use the unlockable hairstyles in the benchmark. Look at how much of a missing hairstyle has ripped him off his character(s).

I should also add that I DO NOT enjoy playing any other character/race/gender than this character I have. Outside the inconsistent color shading, Fantasia will NOT alleviate my issues.

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Overall? I'm very disappointed with how this turned out. It feels like they've taken 3 steps forward but then do a 15 steps backward after.

EDIT: I know lighting are also a prominent issue. But look it this way: if I keep my man's youthful appearance, then even under a bad lighting I will still see him looking youthful. In /gpose, I can tweak that lighting around to produce a fantastic shot. However if they insist on 'aging him 15 years to the future', then my man will not look youthful even under a good lighting. He's already a different character. I want them to fix BOTH the model and lighting. Telling me "Oh it's just lighting." will not fix the fact he's going to look 15 years older -everywhere-. Not even good lighting will preserve his youthful appearance.

But then I figured it would be nicer to elaborate further with more comparison pics:

Taken in the Aetherial Sea instead. Note that while his eyes doesn't look dead in this particular ss, that is to show that the catchlight is dependent on the environment:

Figure 1


The quoted post already covers the pros and cons. But I really would like to reiterate that I severely dislike the new nasolabial folds as it destroys his youthful look. I would be fine if those only become prominent when doing certain emotes. Alternatively, add an age slider.

The ear looking less jagged in DT quite possibly the result of more poly being added, which is lovely.

Figure 2


Face paint is applied to make it easier to see his eyelids on one side. I only did the tracing on right eye but left eye also suffers from similar issue of "having its poly upped but failure to keep the old eye shape". I'd really like to keep his old eye shape.

Additionally, they did make the eyelid less thicker & his sclera is also brighter in benchmark, but I'm indifferent to that.

Figure 3


The tracing shows that his lips are re-sculpted from heart shaped to bow shaped. Additionally, his upper lips and the tips also look less defined. I severely dislike this change.

Figure 4


Another re-sculpt spotted. Nose bridge is thinner in benchmark. Nose trills are also shrunk. That being said, I do like the new, better shadows. I'd like to keep the old shape and the new shadows.

Overall, I think it'd be great if they just add more options.

[Onnie]

Overall, I'm okay with his appearance, since there hasn't been much change. But I do hope this is one of the bugs being addressed that they mentioned haha!
Face 6 has some serious glitching going on. At first I thought it was my sister's laptop.



But my friend tested it on their end and oh boy, it's present still.
Edit: you might need to open images full size to see these properly, since they're larger than the first.



Not as noticeable in other lighting, but definitely still there.



You can clearly see its just the face, as the neck and the rest of his body seem to be fine ( minus whatever is going on by the necklace ) and cuts off at the seam. Would love to know if anyone else is seeing this on face 6.

[Yencat]

I really don't like the 'texturing' they applied to every hyur female face's cheeks. It looks like freckles, or a rash.

Looks like they fixed it, I'm so glad!