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    Supersnow845's Avatar
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    Andreas Cestelle
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    Scholar Lv 100
    I think people over hate the fairy gauge, or at least over hate fey uniob

    Fey union is infinitely more interesting and better designed than soteria because you can use it whenever you want and you can make it last 10 casts while soteria only lasts 4 and the potencies are basically equal per tick

    I don’t think union should change at all. Maybe they could reimagine the gauge and fuse both gauges, the actual “gauge” does something then you just have a union counter from 1-10 and an aetherflow indicator but when you really think about it only BLM’s gauge is actually good, SMN’s is a Bahamut CD tracker, PLD’s is a holy Shelton CD tracker, RPR is an enshroud CD indicator etc

    I think that SCH’s gauge gets uniquely hated oh because union is not incredibly powerful even though it’s well designed in its niche. Union is well designed but niche, putting anything else on the gauge without splitting Union off it just makes unions opportunity cost astronomically high
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    Rawker Stone
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    Paladin Lv 90
    To my defense, if they are serious on trimming abilities off from SCH, giving us back Rouse will make the following abilities redundant and can be removed:
    1. Fey Union/Aetherpact
    2. Fey Blessing
    3. Summon Seraph
    4. Fey Illumination

    Then the following SCH spell can be put to rest:
    • Physick

    Then, the following pet abilities can be buffed to compensate for the trimmed abilities:
    • Embrace up from 180p to 300p. If it crits, it will do 480p which follows pet potency so it is only ever so slightly higher than a non crit Physick.
    • Whispering Dawn increased HoT at the cost of lowering the regen duration to 15s then lowering the cooldown to 30s for a 50% uptime and the same cooldown as Indom

    To accommodate such change, Rouse will have the following effects:
    • is a toggled ability
    • drains 4% MP every 3 seconds. This will incentivize stacking PIE to lower the upkeep cost. With enough PIE + base MP regen, we can lower the upkeep cost to 1%. This means that every 1 minute of uptime, it costs 2000MP, the same MP restored by Aetherflow.
    • Change its old effect from +40% outgoing heals to all pet healing are guaranteed critical to control its healing output from stacking its base effect and Critical Hit.. and the pet's attack critical direct hit.

    Rouse is also reflected in the reworked Fey gauge to only show the state with which the fairy is at the moment and then combining it with Aetherflow for better visual communication. Another idea is that the pet's HP is now shown in the Fey Gauge, instead of the listed as a pet in the party list.

    Also allowing us to manage the pet once again by making them take damage/enmity to pull us out of Broil spamming from time to time to check if it's healthy. The pet will no longer heal itself with Embrace but will instead receive 50% of its healing when it heals others.

    Modifying Summon Eos to instant cast when she's summoned so we have a quick way to call her back to our side.

    Increasing the pet's base movement speed so it doesn't drag behind.

    Bringing back Sustain for burst pet healing should Embrace cannot catch up.

    Changing how barriers are applied from healing done to a flat barrier potency so more abilities that temporarily modify barriers can be introduced.

    Removing regen from Sacred Soil and replacing it with Fey Illumination's Magic Damage reduction so it is more effective vs raid-wides

    Giving us back Shadow Flare as a GCD spell which lasts for 15s.

    Update Dissipation, aside from its current effects, it will allow us to use the pet's healing kit, Dissipation becomes Embrace then Whispering Dawn can be casted without the pet at the cost of increasing the cooldown from 180s to 240s.

    And finally, adding a dps ability on the pet that shares with Embrace's slot, can be toggled to switch between Embrace and the dps pet ability.

    This is more inline with the strategist theme of the job while still honoring its roots as a pet job and then cutting out janky skills.
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    Last edited by rawker; 05-07-2024 at 03:38 PM.

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    Danielle Osmond
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    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    Where are you using another big AOE healing on SCH, it’s niche that doesn’t remotely exist
    To be honest, I wouldn’t know. Idom, consolation, and fey blessing are the big heals SCH needs. Would rather have more utility that benefits the party.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rawker View Post
    Oh please put the fairy gauge out of its misery already
    The gauge is fine, it just need to do something other than strong regen the tank.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Osmond View Post
    The gauge is fine, it just need to do something other than strong regen the tank.
    The compromise I can make with the Fey Gauge is instead of Aetherpact, Rouse will take its place. As i mentioned above, if Rouse if reintroduced quite a number of cooldowns and even a gcd can be pruned. That's how effective it is
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    Quote Originally Posted by rawker View Post
    The compromise I can make with the Fey Gauge is instead of Aetherpact, Rouse will take its place. As i mentioned above, if Rouse if reintroduced quite a number of cooldowns and even a gcd can be pruned. That's how effective it is
    Hmm, make it proc like the way BRDs gauge does. Above 80 gauge, it does and AoE utility. Was going to say regen, but SCH has that, same with AoE heal..x2, an healing potency increase, and a mitigation. All I can think of is AoE direct hit buff for the party? I would still keep the tether regen. It just needs something….
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