Graphical Update: Female Hrothgar feedback

[baekrang]

Thanks for writing forum, agree everythin here too, we need more distance between fangs

And don't understand why they did another hairstyle locked ;o; i wanna use face3-face2's hairstyle, we even get only 4-5 hairstyles for each face
Currently face model is too much human-likely(as their jaws are too short) I want more long jaw-snout options it could be more lion-likely

[Pip_Chick]

+1
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[GrizzlyTank]

Seems like the arms on armor is really bulky on fem hroths.

[MiloslavBlazena]

The female hrothgar nails are tied to the racial starting gear. Please remove this restriction: they should be a CC toggle option, like the coeurl stache.

[Minali]

Really happy with the general design and the variety of faces! Spent all day in the character creator yesterday. ^^

However, there are a few restrictions I'd like the devs to address:

1) Hairstyles are yet again tied to the faces. It was an extremely limiting situations with Hrothguys already and was criticized basically since release. I heard rumors there might have been issues with the ears, would they do it, but by now the devs managed to include several haircuts created without Hrothguys in mind and they work okay on them. And Hrothgals are an entirely new creation, there is no need to build them just as flawed. Please remove hairstyle restrictions and give all faces all exclusive base hairstyle options for both Hrothgals and Hrothguys.

2) The skin colour palette for Hrothgar of both genders is really limited. We could use proper orange or red tones aside from this wine/cherry candy tone Helions have now for example. Please give us more variety.

3) As Miloslav said, the awesome big cat nails are not part of the character model but the starting gear. It has been quite annoying I'd have to choose between the false claws from the Gold Saucer and any other arm gear for each glam of my existing Hrothgar. When I saw the claws on Hrothgals in the preview I was hoping at least the girls would get proper claws (and maybe the guys later on as well?) Sadly, this is not the case. I get how claws are not to everyone's liking of course, but many would love them, so please let us add them in the character creator as optional feature. I'd hate to "declaw" my Hrothgal as well just for the sake of nice arm gear. Having no hats is limiting enough already... ^^;
(Best would be to make this adjustable via Jandelaine, so we don't need a fantasia each time a nice new glam opportunity appears.)

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4) The fur on the fur patches like on the shoulders looked always a bit stiff on Hrothgar, but now with the graphical update and advanced lighting, it looks very greasy, especially in darker colours. Like it would be wet, but without being wet. If there'd be any way to change it so it actually looks a bit more like fur/hair again, this would be cool.

[Airias]

3) As Miloslav said, the awesome big cat nails are not part of the character model but the starting gear. It has been quite annoying I'd have to choose between the false claws from the Gold Saucer and any other arm gear for each glam of my existing Hrothgar. When I saw the claws on Hrothgals in the preview I was hoping at least the girls would get proper claws (and maybe the guys later on as well?) Sadly, this is not the case. I get how claws are not to everyone's liking of course, but many would love them, so please let us add them in the character creator as optional feature. I'd hate to "declaw" my Hrothgal as well just for the sake of nice arm gear. Having no hats is limiting enough already... ^^;

Whaaat? Noooo! The claws are awesome, please make them part of the character model! If they peak through gloves, that is perfectly fine, too!

[Minali]

Whaaat? Noooo! The claws are awesome, please make them part of the character model! If they peak through gloves, that is perfectly fine, too!

Absolutely! And yeah, before anyone says "clipping": Let them clip. They are huge nails, ofc they'll rip holes into gloves. (Maybe make the claw setting adjustable via Jandelaine, so you can adjust it however it suits your glam with some gil instead of a fantasia.)

[angienessyo]

Hairstyles being locked to the faces is really strange because they were obviously designed to be able to more easily use other hairstyles compared to how the males were. They have a much more human face+neck structure so I don't think there's really anything preventing them from just giving them any hairstyle. I hope they change that because there's really only 1 tough short hairstyle and it's locked to a face I really don't like and each face only has access to 2 unique styles. Like no, 2 hairstyles with like 1 thing difference does not equal a new hairstyle haha

[Airias]

I really love the Hrothgals' general appearance, literally had fantasia sitting in my inventory for 2 years now waiting for them. I love the claws and how tall and toned they are and their faces and just their general vibe.

However there are two things I have problems with:
1. That posture gives me a backache, but at least it reminds me to stretch my real back from time to time.
2. The available colour schemes are lacking in every regard. Yes, it's the colours male Hrothgars have, too, but I still wish for more.

Helions have 200 shades of mud and the Lost 200 shades of water when it comes to skin, and half of those look the same and the brighter half is basically white or glowing like neon in the sunlight.
Then the fur colours are a bit switched up but still either mud or water coloured.

If I compare that with my Miqo'te options, yes, sure, I have more options regarding the skin colour, but none I can identify with. Can you maybe add a more reddish brown tone to the lost and just one to the Helions that doesn't have a green undertone? It would be nice to have more colours of actual cats, as well.

Also, please check the shaders again, the bright colours come out REALLY bright in the sunlight, I'm not joking when I say neon. Maybe change the shader on the fur portions on the body to hair, because right now it's reflecting the sunlight like skin.

When it comes to hair/fur colours, can we please have the same options as Miqo'te?

I want to redo my current Seeker (slit pupils) as a Lost (slit pupils) and my options are just lacking right now.




In general, even if I don't sound like it at the end of a long day, I am happy with the Hrothgals and looking forward to playing them, they just need some adjustments in the shader department.

[PortalScience]

On the same topic, but a different issue:

Body structure is very limited for Hrothgar females compared to older races. Mentally, I compare them to a Roegadyn, in terms of the buff women asthetic.

Hroth have:
Height range 72.6-78.5 (8% larger than minimum)
Bust range of A-B cup
flat muscle texture with no customization

Roes have:
Height range 75.6-87.7 (16% larger than minimum)
Bust range A-D cup
Muscle slider which ranges from basically nothing to chiseled features