Thread: 2.0 lore/story

Presenting players with walls and walls of text isn't the best way to get them engaged with the world. Conveying the lore through the environment, music, characters, and quests. This way the player feels like the lore isn't just slapped on the top with blobs of text. But, I can understand why SE is posting things on their website rather than incorporating it in-game, its cheaper.

Originally Posted by Senuska

Presenting players with walls and walls of text isn't the best way to get them engaged with the world. Conveying the lore through the environment, music, characters, and quests. This way the player feels like the lore isn't just slapped on the top with blobs of text. But, I can understand why SE is posting things on their website rather than incorporating it in-game, its cheaper.

When you buy a single player game do you wanna have to go online to read something that should be in game?

I can't believe I have to argue to have more stuff in the game.

Originally Posted by Elexia

Even MMOs with in-game FAQ/Newspaper modules get no love from most players lol.

"How I mine for fish?"

"..The FAQ tells you how to mine for fish, it's located with the ? Help button next to your settings (gear icon)."

"Why would I read something? I'm here to play a game not read!"

etc.

As I said, if they make something like POL for XIV's launchers, they can easily attach Lodestone articles to it, that solves that issue.

then why do they waste their time with it on the website at all? you aren't making a good argument

Originally Posted by Rokien

That's cool lore isn't your thing, that shouldn't stop the game to be more engaging and full. I'm going to bring up ffxi right now sooo ya. FFXI did a great job with lore and story intertwining witheach other. If you wanted more lore, ya you can go out and find it in the game. Just because you don't wanna go seek it out or have it in game, shouldn't mean it should not already be in the game in the first place.

I don't wanna go on some website to see whats new, I wanna go in game and explore whats new.

All the Lodestone posts do is summerize what's already happened in the game. The only time I can think of that a post gave info that wasn't in the game was the first Easter event when the dodo hatched from the egg.

XI did this too for the longest time with the Vana'diel Tribune.

Originally Posted by MoonKeeperr

He has like 2-10 Post on here.

what!?!?! to both of your posts.

I like the concept of an ingame newspaper or fliers to introduce the lore


There are some people complaining about breaking immersion, but doesnt it break immersion when suddenly every patch something new appears out of no where. Wouldnt it be more immersive if -between- patches there are tidbits of lore introduced leading up to patch day.


This could be achieved by way of mini quests / goose-chases in a sense. The newspapers in each nation could send us here and there for various purposes and then when the lore article is released we can put 2 and 2 together to understand why we were sent around.

At the moment we get achievements for using a firework a newspaper GM gives us lol i think SE can think of something a bit more relevant


Another issue is building up suspense. When the Garlean stronghold was placed in game there was no purpose to it, no npcs, no quests. There was a lore article however. There could have been a mini quest involved sending us to the stronghold even just to click a ???. Then we could understand the lore article. Then next sub patch the stronghold is opened. That in my opinion is more immersive.


A further issue is downtime especially for PS3 users. If your waiting on a party or just casually logged in to chat to your LS while you sit in your inn, you can at least relieve the boredom somewhat by reading in game newspapers stored in your journal

I think all important and really relevant lore should definitely be able to be found ingame. That being said, I don't mind just extras and such being found on the lodestone (after all, the lodestone wants to remain in use). And it could appear ALSO on the Lodestone. I don't think anything needs to be EXCLUDED from the lodestone... Merely also included in-game.

Originally Posted by Punainen

I think all important and really relevant lore should definitely be able to be found ingame. That being said, I don't mind just extras and such being found on the lodestone (after all, the lodestone wants to remain in use). And it could appear ALSO on the Lodestone. I don't think anything needs to be EXCLUDED from the lodestone... Merely also included in-game.

the lodestone will still be in use, heck patch notes producer letter, other stuff is still on the lodestone. I seriously don't get why people don't want this in game.