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    Quote Originally Posted by cutestfox View Post
    Yeah, no
    If the changes are causing someone to want to fantasia because their character is too different
    It's a problem. That's all there is to it
    The problem is also that on face 3, which you and I use, there is no mouth at all that would retain its previous shape. They are all broken, as well as the lower part of the face itself.
    By the way, my post in the bugs section was moved to "accepted bugs". Let's hope for the best
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    Quote Originally Posted by AirisRay View Post
    The problem is also that on face 3, which you and I use, there is no mouth at all that would retain its previous shape. They are all broken, as well as the lower part of the face itself.
    By the way, my post in the bugs section was moved to "accepted bugs". Let's hope for the best
    I just saw this, and it's very encouraging! You've been really diligent about your feedback while also dealing with a lot of naysayers, so I hope you're holding up well, hang in there!
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    Quote Originally Posted by AirisRay View Post
    The problem is also that on face 3, which you and I use, there is no mouth at all that would retain its previous shape. They are all broken, as well as the lower part of the face itself.
    By the way, my post in the bugs section was moved to "accepted bugs". Let's hope for the best
    Seems to now have been moved to 'insufficient information'. You might want to try again and follow the template more closely, but I feel like these aesthetic issues will not be considered "bugs" per se and will more likely be up to the devs' discretion for costmetic changes. But again, probably no harm in trying.
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    Quote Originally Posted by noumen0nn View Post
    I just saw this, and it's very encouraging! You've been really diligent about your feedback while also dealing with a lot of naysayers, so I hope you're holding up well, hang in there!
    Thank you very much for your support! I really appreciate it!

    Quote Originally Posted by Shiro-Marusu View Post
    Seems to now have been moved to 'insufficient information'. You might want to try again and follow the template more closely, but I feel like these aesthetic issues will not be considered "bugs" per se and will more likely be up to the devs' discretion for costmetic changes. But again, probably no harm in trying.
    Thank you very much for your support and for letting me know that my topic was moved again!

    Yes, I'll try once more and indicate all these points like date and time and so on. Because I still see this not as an aesthetic problem, but as a bug/defect. The aesthetic problem in this case would be the lip shape itself, which does not match the original, but I'm mainly trying to solve the problem with the huge dent in the lower part of the face, which is an obvious defect made during the process of remodeling. The outline of the lips themselves is actually not as important as this. Although I can see their distorted shape, this is still not a bug, but an "cosmetic change". The lack of texture on the upper lip is also more likely not a bug, but a flaw, so in my last message I classified all this as additional points.

    In general, I’ll try again to draw attention to the dent. It really won't do any harm, but at least I'll be sure that I did my best.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AirisRay View Post
    Thank you very much for your support! I really appreciate it!



    Thank you very much for your support and for letting me know that my topic was moved again!

    Yes, I'll try once more and indicate all these points like date and time and so on. Because I still see this not as an aesthetic problem, but as a bug/defect. The aesthetic problem in this case would be the lip shape itself, which does not match the original, but I'm mainly trying to solve the problem with the huge dent in the lower part of the face, which is an obvious defect made during the process of remodeling. The outline of the lips themselves is actually not as important as this. Although I can see their distorted shape, this is still not a bug, but an "cosmetic change". The lack of texture on the upper lip is also more likely not a bug, but a flaw, so in my last message I classified all this as additional points.

    In general, I’ll try again to draw attention to the dent. It really won't do any harm, but at least I'll be sure that I did my best.
    Yes I can see what you mean with the 'dent', creating the visible shadows. I think some other races have this to some extent as well (I can see it a little on the fem Au Ra with their overall blown up face) but it's very visible on miqo'te and even more so on female. To me it creates a strong effect of a babydoll mouth for female miqo, or something akin to that. In other ways, it also creates a (fake) smile and makes the mouth look larger. I see a similar problem in my own character, which I have highlighted in some of my posts.
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    Acting as if everyone hasn't already provided a billion diagrams, charts and comparisons showcasing what's changed only to be met with disingenuous responses such as "it's the same image" or pretending nobody has posted anything to begin with
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    Quote Originally Posted by missTori View Post
    I'm like years late on this discussion apparently, seeing as it's page 69. But, for the most part, i don't think anyone's characters look DRASTICALLY different. Like- if you hyper analyze every aspect you will find faults in anything.
    I think some people work backwards from their reaction to their character to how much they've changed. Like if they really don't like how they look, they assume the change must be correspondingly large.

    When I was a young kid (like 5 or 6 years old) my mum changed her hair for the first time since I was born, from an 80s perm to a 90s Diana bob cut. I hated it. I literally didn't recognise my own mum. Objectively speaking, getting a haircut is not a huge change, but its effect on me was.
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    Some people are overreacting. There is little changes between some of the pictures. Most of the changes are not that different which was stated would be the case so they offered a free fantasia to fix it. If they want part of the face to have a different shape now its how they want it so working as intended. The actual issues should see a fix though I agree.
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