Character graphical changes are NOT in an acceptable state, please make it optional

[Jijifli]

On one hand I am very VERY happy with mine outside of facepaint being left completely untouched.


On the other, I hope those encountering issues have their issues resolved, however way it'll need to be.

[NanaWiloh]

are you joking? they literally said "we don't want them to look like different characters, we just want people to say 'look, my character is pretty now.' " verbatim.

they LITERALLY PROMISED. IN a live letter. when they announced the changes. and repeated it. more than once.

That is not is promise that is them stating their wants which can change at any moment. Promise and want do not mean the same thing.

[NanaWiloh]

remember when i told you people to keep expectations low? .....this is why , gimme my damn fangs back

Expectations and assuming go hand and hand. Sooner or later they will make you look like a fool.

[Averax]

I love looking at these comparison shots and the biggest difference is....the lighting....it's really dim in the benchmark character creator for some reason. Most of your characters look almost exactly the same for me.

[Rueby]

I love looking at these comparison shots and the biggest difference is....the lighting....it's really dim in the benchmark character creator for some reason. Most of your characters look almost exactly the same for me.

Characters here and in other threads have really obvious lip jobs or changes to lips and nose jobs which really isn't the lighting...

[Supersnow845]

Did I accidentally hit the jackpot, after watching it in the benchmark face 4 male seekers seem entirely unchanged, they just have higher textures and better lighting

[decomposer]

Thankfully, the benchmark is a self-admitted work in progress. This is why the forums are so important. I have posted the very obvious, grating changes to my characters in other threads, but reading through this one I see that I'm not alone. I also see that many people were lucky enough to not have their characters drastically altered, or are indifferent to the changes! I would say to all of the people saying "just use the free fantasia" to please remember that some of us are playing characters with the darkest skintone, the fullest lips, the darkest hair. We have no where to "change" to.

There is no reason that jet black hair should be grey (and in the effort of arguing realism, I have black hair in real life ; it's not grey in the sunlight, and it's not grey at dusk) just as there is no reason to lighten skintones. Even most of the lip textures seemed to be placed wrong, either thinning lips or making them fuller (in the case of femra)

I do hope the team gets in here and sees complaints. There's some serious issues going on with lighting, and when it's egregious, it's (really) egregious. I'm trying to stay positive, though!

[Lieri]

They could have kept everything intact but make them high res with better effects in eyes, lips, and skin. Because this isnt a huge graphical update anyway....

Unlike in some other games I have played where the graphic update really changed everything. So in my opinion if they want to make things the same, then make it the same (use old model as baseline) but with higher details. When it comes into character model, its either you do a big update (like WoW did) or a minor update (higher res, textures, and effects) imo. Something in between will always result in complains.

In some of the complains you can see how even changing eyes or lips a little resulted in a different character. Its neither here or there and just odd.

[Tamlen]

Already posted this in a different thread for screenshots, but we're not happy with it at all. Some of my characters, my friends' characters, and my siblings' characters are drastically changed. Sure some might think they look better, or that it isn't that different, but they're not the same characters we've all played with since 1.0/2.0 and 3.0 (in the case of au ra). So below are some comparisons and comments by the respective players:



Here SE made the nostrils bigger, the philtrum smaller, the lips no longer have the tubercles, the oral commissure is less pronounced/barely visible, the bridge of the nose has changed entirely, the nostrils are wider and rounder, epicanthal folds were shortened and receded.
He looks soulless, aged, unhappy, like he's had blepharoplasty and rhinoplasty by force at the hands of some Steppe butcher. It's as if all of the characters' happiness and spirit was sucked out of them and shoved into their nostrils.
This is a character my brother helped design before passing away, so I'm especially displeased with how he's so drastically changed. It's not just different textures, his facial structure is affected. He looks similar, yes, but it's not the same character.
Also, his eyelashes are gone.. why?
https://imgsli.com/MjU2MTAw

Here's another picture of the same face, both using nose 6- before and after 7.0's changes.

Some races have a nose that was taller before and gets noticeably shorter after, or the opposite issue of this image.


She doesn't even look like the same character, the lips look completely different, the philtrum is wider and more pronounced, the lips aren't as full and the nose looks more like they went for a Disney look rather than something that fits in the game. The eyes are okay, but the pupils are a bit wider now.. which looks strange if you've gotten used to looking at how they used to look
Her bottom lip seems to lack the "plump" that it used to have, as well.


This character is meant to be childish and alien looking, made by someone who at the time was a child. She looks like she's been given a redesign to look softer, conventionally attractive, and generally more appealing to men- yet somehow more uncanny and creepy.

Why are the nose shapes changing so much? You can increase the quality of a model without altering its aesthetic to this degree.

Additionally, everything looks washed out. The makeup is less drastic even on the dark settings with saturated colours. There's more shine on skin where it feels weird and oily and the shine from glossy lips has been almost entirely removed.
Certain light hair colours don't look good now;


Another example where the shape of the lips and nose were changed rather than upscaled;

She's making a 2000s duckface.

This persons' duskwight looks like someone ripped the textures from the other older-looking male elezen face and put them onto the only youthful one


These are the *exact* same options on one character, the only difference is the new graphical 'update'. They're not even close to the same.


I know none of this will be amended either prior to or after the release of 7.0, but it's another dissatisfaction drop we've all had among many in the bucket with the direction being taken for FF14 right now.

[noumen0nn]

I posted in another thread, but I figure it won't hurt to post here too. I cannot find the words to describe how bad these changes are. She looks like a completely different person. Every one of her features has lost their definition, her lips are the wrong shape, her eyebrows and eye shadow are weak, I could go on but the pics speak for themselves.