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  1. #1
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    Asumi Hitigawa
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    I see allot of my issues were already talked about being adjusted, the eyes being dull and lifeless losing that charming almost anime feel we have now. so I wont go into those. The fangs on moon miqote need to be brought back, i know this has been said before so ill leave that as is.

    My main other concern with my character is they have made her eyelashes feel too long and given her a kind of doll like appearance that is not me or my character at all, I prefer my eye shape to stay the same, i know why they did it to fix the odd skin around the inside upper part of the eyes on my chosen face but, longer lashes isnt the right solution. My character is not a doll of a girl. Ill show pictures of before and after to show this.







    As you can see the eye lashes are way to long, please find a way to match the old more. I do not want to be so dolled up.
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    Anarnee's Avatar
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    Thyn'a Sindyrl
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    Dragoon Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Sumoo View Post
    As you can see the eye lashes are way to long, please find a way to match the old more. I do not want to be so dolled up.
    Do you think you could post some 3/4 angles too? From this angle I can see what you mean that they look longer, or rather fuller maybe? but like they've changed where they seem to lay in the waterline, which is a drastically different look for sure. I'd even say that they made them look thinner in the inner corners, and thicker in the outer?



    That's also one of the issues I have with my Female Roegadyn, they've changed how the eyelashes sit/angle, and on my girl it makes her eyes look sharp, that combined with some lip changes give her a very different expression.

    I think that it could be fixed as one of the data/texture issues mentioned in the announcement earlier, but just in case not, it would be really nice to have some more examples of this to better articulate not just for me but for other that are bothered, on how they can maybe fix some of these changes, should they do the update and we still not be happy.
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    Last edited by Anarnee; 04-20-2024 at 05:04 PM.

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    Vera Nova
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anarnee View Post
    Do you think you could post some 3/4 angles too? From this angle I can see what you mean that they look longer, or rather fuller maybe? but like they've changed where they seem to lay in the waterline, which is a drastically different look for sure. I'd even say that they made them look thinner in the inner corners, and thicker in the outer?



    That's also one of the issues I have with my Female Roegadyn, they've changed how the eyelashes sit/angle, and on my girl it makes her eyes look sharp, that combined with some lip changes give her a very different expression.

    I think that it could be fixed as one of the data/texture issues mentioned in the announcement earlier, but just in case not, it would be really nice to have some more examples of this to better articulate not just for me but for other that are bothered, on how they can maybe fix some of these changes, should they do the update and we still not be happy.
    I have two sliders, one from below and one from belowish 3/4 that shows abit of the eyelashes. Maybe it helps?

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    3/4 Slider?
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    Last edited by Rueby; 04-20-2024 at 06:07 PM. Reason: reworded

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rueby View Post
    I have two sliders, one from below and one from belowish 3/4 that shows abit of the eyelashes. Maybe it helps?
    Incredibly helpful! Thank you!!!

    Edit: Lining them up and looking at them it's almost like... I donno... They flipped the lashes? New ones def seem thick in the outer corner, thinner on the inner and it opposite for the old ones.
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    Last edited by Anarnee; 04-20-2024 at 06:18 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anarnee View Post
    Incredibly helpful! Thank you!!!

    Edit: Lining them up and looking at them it's almost like... I donno... They flipped the lashes? New ones def seem thick in the outer corner, thinner on the inner and it opposite for the old ones.
    I believe they increased the density of the eyelashes across the board with 'longer' shape at the edges. It gives a fake lashes/heavy mascara look, while the eyeliner on the upper waterline + eyelid increases that effect.

    The old one had no eyeliner and the lashes were abit more sparse and somewhat evenly spread. For my eyes at least.

    Here's another slider from face on view. You can see it abit more here I guess? The angle is abit off though so they're not lining up well due to the character breathing ahaha

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    Last edited by Rueby; 04-20-2024 at 06:48 PM.

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    Evie Serenity
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rueby View Post
    I believe they increased the density of the eyelashes across the board with 'longer' shape at the edges. It gives a fake lashes/heavy mascara look, while the eyeliner on the upper waterline + eyelid increases that effect.

    The old one had no eyeliner and the lashes were abit more sparse and somewhat evenly spread. For my eyes at least.

    Here's another slider from face on view. You can see it abit more here I guess? The angle is abit off though so they're not lining up well due to the character breathing ahaha

    Front Slider
    I personally like the new lashes, especially on face 4 mooncat. I hope it is optional because I like them but some people don’t. My guess is they changed them because the most popular mods people use are adding lashes and make up on their characters. It’s probably why the devs decided to make the lashes thicker and longer now. I don’t think they look fake, but they do make the face 4 mooncat cuter imo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moonsprite View Post
    I personally like the new lashes, especially on face 4 mooncat. I hope it is optional because I like them but some people don’t. My guess is they changed them because the most popular mods people use are adding lashes and make up on their characters. It’s probably why the devs decided to make the lashes thicker and longer now. I don’t think they look fake, but they do make the face 4 mooncat cuter imo.
    I'm glad that you do! But I personally think these eyelashes are too much, I really loved the way the old lashes looked that they didn't curl up and had an almost downward sloping look to them. She had a bigger nosebridge with a bump on it that was sandfiled, I was really happy with the way she looked and I'm sad that 'flaws' that she had that to me made her charming to me got standardized. I think this is personal preference, but I think they shouldn't have gone that overboard. Alot of eyeshapes look very same-y now because all I notice is the heavy copy pasted thick eyelashes.

    1. Stick to the original look
    2. Add a toggle

    If they really are inspired by mods then this change should be optional rather than 'this is what you get now'. I don't even have any other eye options that has sparser eyelashes because they ALL have the same copy pasted eyelash design. Don't get me wrong, I think she's pretty, but I also think alot of the old charm that I chose is gone.
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