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    Loggos's Avatar
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    Nov 2011
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    Kaeya Alberich
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    Twintania
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    Pictomancer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Rueby View Post
    Yes, some people in this thread have been emotional and perhaps unreasonable but the responses these people get only breed frustration and contempt from both sides. It seems really simple 'just pull the ms paint and point at it' but what if they don't know exactly where to point? Something feels off and they don't know how to express it. I'd like to think these emotional responses stem out of a deep love for their character and I can't help but sympathize with them.

    To put it bluntly, not many people have an eye trained for detail to be able to pinpoint exactly what is bothering them. When I first looked at my character I knew something was off immediately but I didn't know exactly what it was until I booted up the Bench and game CC and photoshop and spent way too long trying to get perfect shots. I have a pretty ok-ish background on art, and it's something I'm passionate about, someone else might not be able to pick on what I'm seeing or is struggling to put it in words or even diagrams.

    Anyone chiming in going like 'just do it 4head' 'it's that simple' 'it's not rocket science' just causes frustration. While I encourage people to go into MSPaint or whatever free digital program to try and express their issues, I'm also sympathetic that not everyone has the means to. I was exhausted spending all day trying to fight the CC to try and make comparisons.

    I mentioned it before, your eye (observation, eye for details) is essentially a skill that levels up combined with some basic knowledge about the human face/body/proportion/lighting/perspective people can pinpoint something that bothers them. Without that basic knowledge, I'd imagine someone might struggle and I can't fault them. Showing compassion to someone who is struggling to express themselves because they lack a skill- even if they're in an emotional state, can go a long way.

    I could for example take two pictures but the angle is slightly different, and I start comparing them. The comparison isn't fair because things aren't kept constant. I don't know whether this is a prespective/angle change, or an actual change.
    I completely agree with this.

    Also, we've seen that just pointing at things in MSPaint still doesn't always get the point across, but precisely drawing in what is wrong is a lot more difficult with a mouse. I spent way too much time on meticulously lining the shapes of my char's features in both screenshots with my graphic tablet to make sure everything is as accurate as possible.
    Because if it's too sloppy then you can't prove your point either.
    But not everyone has a graphic tablet or an ipad with a pencil etc.

    Then if you want to be even more thorough and add descriptive texts and create collages of individual features for better comparison you'll quickly spend 1 hour on that whole thing because all those small tasks add up.

    Not everybody has the time for that though.
    I think it's completely understandable when people, who just want to voice their concerns, post screenshots with a post/text decriptions of what they dislike.
    I think diagrams/visual analyses and stuff are very helpful but not everyone should have to post those to be taken seriously.
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    Last edited by Loggos; 04-19-2024 at 06:10 PM.