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  1. #1
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    Tsumdere's Avatar
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    Fia Mortivault
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    Quote Originally Posted by LlymlaenGreene View Post
    as I said before, I really need to draw my old character so that they do as they promised. Literally sit down and start drawing * but I'm sorry, I don't have the talent to do this, and why should I do the work for the developers * Yes, I'm one of those who see that my character has become someone who was bitten by wasps and he is completely different FOR ME. I can take screenshots and say this is not my character, especially in motion, how do I describe this feeling? My character is literally smiling with a stretch, as if her skin is stretched, how do you propose to describe it?
    These are the developers, they have all the tools to compare before and after and they have to do it when they make certain promises!
    Perhaps it is difficult to articulate what is different because the thing that is different is so insignificant. I still recommend pulling out the MSPaint if you wish to give feedback.

    I get that you're upset and I'm not here to say you can't be upset, but in my humble opinion as a fellow Face 1 Middie user - your character is close to identical before and after and really cute in both. She's not ugly. She looks the same. It's a cute face. No, she doesn't look like she was stung by wasps.
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    Roda Tirhaalo
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tsumdere View Post
    Perhaps it is difficult to articulate what is different because the thing that is different is so insignificant. I still recommend pulling out the MSPaint if you wish to give feedback.

    I get that you're upset and I'm not here to say you can't be upset, but in my humble opinion as a fellow Face 1 Middie user - your character is close to identical before and after and really cute in both. She's not ugly. She looks the same. It's a cute face. No, she doesn't look like she was stung by wasps.
    I dont have the new mspaint so I don't know how well they improved things with their new features, but might I recommend Krita instead! ^^;
    Free painting tool with layers and tools meant for more control in image editing. It's what i've been using for my edits and breakdowns. Trying to do this in mspaint is a nightmare @@
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    ~sigh~

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roda View Post
    I dont have the new mspaint so I don't know how well they improved things with their new features, but might I recommend Krita instead! ^^;
    Free painting tool with layers and tools meant for more control in image editing. It's what i've been using for my edits and breakdowns. Trying to do this in mspaint is a nightmare @@
    Photopea is also good! Free online Photoshop.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tsumdere View Post
    Perhaps it is difficult to articulate what is different because the thing that is different is so insignificant. I still recommend pulling out the MSPaint if you wish to give feedback.

    I get that you're upset and I'm not here to say you can't be upset, but in my humble opinion as a fellow Face 1 Middie user - your character is close to identical before and after and really cute in both. She's not ugly. She looks the same. It's a cute face. No, she doesn't look like she was stung by wasps.
    thanks for the adequate response, it's nice to see this even after I started being impolite. But it's still not the same for me. In order not to be empty-mouthed, at the moment I asked my five friends who sees me every day and they all replied that your cheeks are bigger, your nose is different, your eyes are different, you have botox, you are stung by bees * which coincides with my opinion*, and they also like the previous one * because it is more familiar and/ or really better*. I'm absolutely in favor of graphic improvements, I just want all parties to be happy, But as for paint, I did the mixing there and it's so uncomfortable, it used to be much more convenient in Photoshop, but now there's only standard paint

    I really complain about how she behaves in cutscenes, maybe I need to record some cut scene and compare it with a benchmark, but why and who will watch it * not the developers for sure*

    So please imagine, I feel out of place when I watch a short demo with my character. And what happens when I need to do msq or even sidequests * I'm not a skipper* and with my English lesson I read slowly. During this, I would like to see a more familiar character, I would be glad to see the old version or the new one, where in my opinion I feel comfortable seeing this character. And I also want everyone to be satisfied, both who wants changes and who doesn't. I wish the developers to do everything right! :3
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    Quote Originally Posted by LlymlaenGreene View Post
    thanks for the adequate response, it's nice to see this even after I started being impolite. But it's still not the same for me. In order not to be empty-mouthed, at the moment I asked my five friends who sees me every day and they all replied that your cheeks are bigger, your nose is different, your eyes are different, you have botox, you are stung by bees * which coincides with my opinion*, and they also like the previous one * because it is more familiar and/ or really better*. I'm absolutely in favor of graphic improvements, I just want all parties to be happy, But as for paint, I did the mixing there and it's so uncomfortable, it used to be much more convenient in Photoshop, but now there's only standard paint

    I really complain about how she behaves in cutscenes, maybe I need to record some cut scene and compare it with a benchmark, but why and who will watch it * not the developers for sure*

    So please imagine, I feel out of place when I watch a short demo with my character. And what happens when I need to do msq or even sidequests * I'm not a skipper* and with my English lesson I read slowly. During this, I would like to see a more familiar character, I would be glad to see the old version or the new one, where in my opinion I feel comfortable seeing this character. And I also want everyone to be satisfied, both who wants changes and who doesn't. I wish the developers to do everything right! :3
    I think it just makes me sad seeing people being so devastated when a lot of these characters are so similar to their originals. My main character (Elezen male) has the wrong textures on his face which don't even need MSPaint to point out. I watch all cutscenes and roleplay with him. I have hundreds of screenshots/art of him. I know how you would feel watching your character who doesn't resonate with you anymore. But it's better to step back and take a deep breath right?

    I was just trying to say (to everyone, not just you) that nitpicking minutia and making hundreds of threads that aren't clear in what they are seeing isn't doing anyone any good. I would say it probably hurts the chances of the devs listening to anything we are saying on NA forums. It's why I posted on JP even though I don't speak Japanese. My post here on NA got 5 votes and same post on JP got 63 because posts (especially about races that less people care about like Elezen/Roe) aren't being pushed back to page 8 of the forums due to everyone and their mother making a separate thread about specific features that no one else notices.

    Not that those little things don't matter, but that people need to chill out. Everyone's characters are still cute even though the lips or the eyes are a little bit different. They aren't ugly and they aren't completely different characters. There are absolutely things to be changed, but it is still very close and they are going to make updates. They said so on the website.

    I hope that makes sense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tsumdere View Post
    I think it just makes me sad seeing people being so devastated when a lot of these characters are so similar to their originals. My main character (Elezen male) has the wrong textures on his face which don't even need MSPaint to point out. I watch all cutscenes and roleplay with him. I have hundreds of screenshots/art of him. I know how you would feel watching your character who doesn't resonate with you anymore. But it's better to step back and take a deep breath right?

    I was just trying to say (to everyone, not just you) that nitpicking minutia and making hundreds of threads that aren't clear in what they are seeing isn't doing anyone any good. I would say it probably hurts the chances of the devs listening to anything we are saying on NA forums. It's why I posted on JP even though I don't speak Japanese. My post here on NA got 5 votes and same post on JP got 63 because posts (especially about races that less people care about like Elezen/Roe) aren't being pushed back to page 8 of the forums due to everyone and their mother making a separate thread about specific features that no one else notices.

    Not that those little things don't matter, but that people need to chill out. Everyone's characters are still cute even though the lips or the eyes are a little bit different. They aren't ugly and they aren't completely different characters. There are absolutely things to be changed, but it is still very close and they are going to make updates. They said so on the website.

    I hope that makes sense.
    Yes, I agree with you, it sounds reasonable, so I think I should just wait for the new benchmark and after that, so be it, I'll launch photoshop and make a more detailed comparison, which I want (if of course I succeed, because I see what people who understand this write, yes I am one of those who feels something is wrong, but does not say what exactly, but simply declares: "everything is not right")
    And yes, thanks for the kind words :3
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