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    Quote Originally Posted by cutestfox View Post
    Yeah, no
    If the changes are causing someone to want to fantasia because their character is too different
    It's a problem. That's all there is to it
    The problem is also that on face 3, which you and I use, there is no mouth at all that would retain its previous shape. They are all broken, as well as the lower part of the face itself.
    By the way, my post in the bugs section was moved to "accepted bugs". Let's hope for the best
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    Quote Originally Posted by AirisRay View Post
    The problem is also that on face 3, which you and I use, there is no mouth at all that would retain its previous shape. They are all broken, as well as the lower part of the face itself.
    By the way, my post in the bugs section was moved to "accepted bugs". Let's hope for the best
    I just saw this, and it's very encouraging! You've been really diligent about your feedback while also dealing with a lot of naysayers, so I hope you're holding up well, hang in there!
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    Quote Originally Posted by AirisRay View Post
    The problem is also that on face 3, which you and I use, there is no mouth at all that would retain its previous shape. They are all broken, as well as the lower part of the face itself.
    By the way, my post in the bugs section was moved to "accepted bugs". Let's hope for the best
    Seems to now have been moved to 'insufficient information'. You might want to try again and follow the template more closely, but I feel like these aesthetic issues will not be considered "bugs" per se and will more likely be up to the devs' discretion for costmetic changes. But again, probably no harm in trying.
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    Quote Originally Posted by noumen0nn View Post
    I just saw this, and it's very encouraging! You've been really diligent about your feedback while also dealing with a lot of naysayers, so I hope you're holding up well, hang in there!
    Thank you very much for your support! I really appreciate it!

    Quote Originally Posted by Shiro-Marusu View Post
    Seems to now have been moved to 'insufficient information'. You might want to try again and follow the template more closely, but I feel like these aesthetic issues will not be considered "bugs" per se and will more likely be up to the devs' discretion for costmetic changes. But again, probably no harm in trying.
    Thank you very much for your support and for letting me know that my topic was moved again!

    Yes, I'll try once more and indicate all these points like date and time and so on. Because I still see this not as an aesthetic problem, but as a bug/defect. The aesthetic problem in this case would be the lip shape itself, which does not match the original, but I'm mainly trying to solve the problem with the huge dent in the lower part of the face, which is an obvious defect made during the process of remodeling. The outline of the lips themselves is actually not as important as this. Although I can see their distorted shape, this is still not a bug, but an "cosmetic change". The lack of texture on the upper lip is also more likely not a bug, but a flaw, so in my last message I classified all this as additional points.

    In general, I’ll try again to draw attention to the dent. It really won't do any harm, but at least I'll be sure that I did my best.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AirisRay View Post
    Thank you very much for your support! I really appreciate it!



    Thank you very much for your support and for letting me know that my topic was moved again!

    Yes, I'll try once more and indicate all these points like date and time and so on. Because I still see this not as an aesthetic problem, but as a bug/defect. The aesthetic problem in this case would be the lip shape itself, which does not match the original, but I'm mainly trying to solve the problem with the huge dent in the lower part of the face, which is an obvious defect made during the process of remodeling. The outline of the lips themselves is actually not as important as this. Although I can see their distorted shape, this is still not a bug, but an "cosmetic change". The lack of texture on the upper lip is also more likely not a bug, but a flaw, so in my last message I classified all this as additional points.

    In general, I’ll try again to draw attention to the dent. It really won't do any harm, but at least I'll be sure that I did my best.
    Yes I can see what you mean with the 'dent', creating the visible shadows. I think some other races have this to some extent as well (I can see it a little on the fem Au Ra with their overall blown up face) but it's very visible on miqo'te and even more so on female. To me it creates a strong effect of a babydoll mouth for female miqo, or something akin to that. In other ways, it also creates a (fake) smile and makes the mouth look larger. I see a similar problem in my own character, which I have highlighted in some of my posts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shiro-Marusu View Post
    Yes I can see what you mean with the 'dent', creating the visible shadows. I think some other races have this to some extent as well (I can see it a little on the fem Au Ra with their overall blown up face) but it's very visible on miqo'te and even more so on female. To me it creates a strong effect of a babydoll mouth for female miqo, or something akin to that. In other ways, it also creates a (fake) smile and makes the mouth look larger. I see a similar problem in my own character, which I have highlighted in some of my posts.
    Everything is exactly as you said. I would even say the mouth is like a puppet, which distorts any possible outline of the lips.
    I may play with the other lips on her face and even get used to it and even find a peculiar beauty in it, because I cannot call outlines ugly. It's just different. And although I don't understand the decision to change it at all and I'm not happy about this fact, nevertheless I can get used to it.
    But how can I get used to a defect on the face model itself? And most importantly, why try to get used to it or accepted this, if it can and should be corrected? Idk.

    I wrote a new post with all the necessary information and I will hope for a positive result.
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    Last edited by AirisRay; 04-19-2024 at 06:57 PM.