Character graphical changes are NOT in an acceptable state, please make it optional

[Doopliss]

My original post may have been unclear.

Say there is someone else out there who happened to make a character identical to yours. The benchmark comes out and you hate it. This other person loves it and thinks their character looks perfect, they don't see any differences other than it being in HD. Who is correct?

As another example, I think Face 1 Highlander turned out fantastic. I've seen other posts that say it looks like garbage and nothing like their character. Who is correct?

Now obviously the answer is both and neither, everyone is entitled to their opinion on their own character. The thought experiment was more about how the developers respond to conflicting feedback about the same thing.

Side note, I think it's pretty silly to say someone's opinion on aesthetics is worth more just because they've played the game longer.

I personally do think these questions are portrayed a little black and white, when the situation is far more grey...

For example, since so many people think others are being dramatic and see very little changes, and simply enjoy the upgrade--do you really think they would feel any different about it if the upgrade was done more precisely to have the facial features and makeup look like the current models'?

I understand a lot of arguments are started through aggressive language here, and that doesn't help anyone think more objectively, but, they did set up expectations to a userbase in which many paying customers were expecting something more carefully handled.

[CidHeiral]

I personally do think these questions are portrayed a little black and white, when the situation is far more grey...

The situation is very grey, I agree. That's what we're discussing.

if anything I think the situation up to this point has been discussed very black and white. Most of the posts in this thread are black and white "my character is ruined" "no it isn't." Repeat forever.

I would like to share this with you.

For context, I've been playing this game since January 2014 and I have 18k hours of playtime so yeah I've been staring at my character the whole time and I was really affected when I saw it in the benchmark. To me, she looked too different and I was really disappointed.

However, I've somehow managed to make a character I like and I hope my advice can help some of you.

This is a great post!

[Doopliss]

The situation is very grey, I agree. That's what we're discussing.

if anything I think the situation up to this point has been discussed very black and white. Most of the posts in this thread are black and white "my character is ruined" "no it isn't." Repeat forever.

Huh? I mean, that's not really what I was trying to discuss in that specific reply, but, uh...yeah.

I want to be empathetic here, I really do, but I feel like those who keep saying that people keep posting that their character has been ruined has been like, posted more than the people actually saying that, if you catch my drift.

Well, more so, it's been like, the same select few people saying it, arguing with another group of repeated visitors. Many of those who dislike the changes and post calmer thoughts on why they dislike the changes get ignored or either a few attempts at some bad faith questions before coming to an agreement, at worst.

I understand that the people you are talking about have used extreme, aggressive language, and I know that can be upsetting to see. I suppose I just see it as mostly inoffensive since it's solely their own character they're insulting, even if exaggerated. Then again, I just don't tend to take people who're clearly acting on emotions 100% literally...

But I think I need to follow my own advice and back off from asking questions like these. See you all, and, again, I hope you keep voicing your concerns and that SE takes care.

EDIT: Literally just noticed two posts above that there's a reply written toward my last post answering with the assumption that I implied way more extreme measures than I actually did. That has now happened twice from the same group of people presenting these arguments. Yeah, I'm sorry if I come across as rude at this point, but I super gotta take my own advice.

[Mouthbone]

I personally do think these questions are portrayed a little black and white, when the situation is far more grey...

For example, since so many people think others are being dramatic and see very little changes, and simply enjoy the upgrade--do you really think they would feel any different about it if the upgrade was done more precisely to have the facial features and makeup look like the current models'?

I don't think it's fair to paint people that like the updated looks as indifferent to change.
I like the update (mostly) and I would rather them keep it as is (with minor changes to the face markings and mooncat fangs).
I don't want the devs to go back and do a 1 to 1 port, because it can look weird/bad for one reason or another.
I trust the developers and the character designers to know what they are doing.

I've also heard concerns among friends over the idea that the devs might roll back changes in order to please the people complaining on the forums.
In my experience, the reaction to the update is majorly positive, however, people happy with their update have fewer reasons to go on the forums and voice their opinion.
This does not invalidate their opinion at all.
Do the opinions of people that frequent the forums hold more weight?
I don't know, but I hope the devs aren't only taking into account the opinions of the people complaining.

[4clubbedace]

I don't think it's fair to paint people that like the updated looks as indifferent to change.
I like the update (mostly) and I would rather them keep it as is (with minor changes to the face markings and mooncat fangs).
I don't want the devs to go back and do a 1 to 1 port, because it can look weird/bad for one reason or another.
I trust the developers and the character designers to know what they are doing.

I've also heard concerns among friends over the idea that the devs might roll back changes in order to please the people complaining on the forums.
In my experience, the reaction to the update is majorly positive, however, people happy with their update have fewer reasons to go on the forums and voice their opinion.
This does not invalidate their opinion at all.
Do the opinions of people that frequent the forums hold more weight?
I don't know, but I hope the devs aren't only taking into account the opinions of the people complaining.

people come to forums specifically to complain, the most negative emotive are the loudest.