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    Quote Originally Posted by LianaThorne View Post
    Usually gaps mean the hair model isn't fit properly to whatever head model they're using.

    Which is kind of a head scratcher for me, because if no shape alterations were made to models...why are there gaps now when there weren't before...? Should just kinda snap back on since face texture/lighting changes shouldn't physically alter the shape of the head or break models.
    It's just hair from a model of another race (Hyur, I'm guessing) that's been pulled over a Miqote's head. Yes, everything is so careless
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    Quote Originally Posted by AirisRay View Post
    It's just hair from a model of another race (Hyur, I'm guessing) that's been pulled over a Miqote's head. Yes, everything is so careless
    Sorry, to momentarily "take advantage" of that careless feeling, I want to actually use that Miqo'te image I posted earlier for its intended use.


    It's slight and maybe difficult to figure out on faces that don't have markings, but I've also noticed that Facial Features (both from the selectable tab and what's baked in) seem to be placed a little haphazardly on the new models.

    It's not bad in my Seeker's case, but I even feel like this messes with impression a little bit. The large one is less rough-looking, while the chin one is outright larger, although I don't personally dislike the latter.

    They also look...faker to me? It felt like scars, gems, etc, are a little rushed-feeling with their new textures and placements. I remember seeing a Highlander man with a bunch natural-looking scars on his face in live, who then suddenly had his scars nearly clipping into one another in the benchmark.

    And, obviously, not only are eyebrows mysteriously changing thickness and color for many folk, but many of them are straight up placed higher or lower than their original iterations. The change is most egregious with anyone using the eyebrow Facepaint option. And now hairs that didn't have gaps, do... It really does all feel careless...


    While feeling this way, I also double-checked my Elezen's face option. And while this is a particular change I don't care about, even her earclasps are placed differently. On the plus side, the mole's new placement appears better, at least, since it looks like it works in consideration of Face 4's tattoo now. I hope to see all changes feel like they were changed with consideration like that, instead.
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    I apologize for the large number of posts in a row, but all the messages to which I want to respond do not fit into one answer

    Quote Originally Posted by Doopliss View Post
    Sorry, to momentarily "take advantage" of that careless feeling, I want to actually use that Miqo'te image I posted earlier for its intended use.
    It's slight and maybe difficult to figure out on faces that don't have markings, but I've also noticed that Facial Features (both from the selectable tab and what's baked in) seem to be placed a little haphazardly on the new models.

    It's not bad in my Seeker's case, but I even feel like this messes with impression a little bit. The large one is less rough-looking, while the chin one is outright larger, although I don't personally dislike the latter.

    They also look...faker to me? It felt like scars, gems, etc, are a little rushed-feeling with their new textures and placements. I remember seeing a Highlander man with a bunch natural-looking scars on his face in live, who then suddenly had his scars nearly clipping into one another in the benchmark.

    And, obviously, not only are eyebrows mysteriously changing thickness and color for many folk, but many of them are straight up placed higher or lower than their original iterations. The change is most egregious with anyone using the eyebrow Facepaint option. And now hairs that didn't have gaps, do... It really does all feel careless...

    While feeling this way, I also double-checked my Elezen's face option. And while this is a particular change I don't care about, even her earclasps are placed differently. On the plus side, the mole's new placement appears better, at least, since it looks like it works in consideration of Face 4's tattoo now. I hope to see all changes feel like they were changed with consideration like that, instead.
    I noticed that some of the characters were made with the greatest care in all details. I know that many people complain about Viera, which have changed a lot. My dear friend is just as upset as I'm right now, she plays Viera. And I can say for sure that her character has become unrecognizable. I became curious and loaded my Viera into the benchmark. And imagine my amazement when I saw her absolute copy, only improved. I felt very sad that this did not happen to my beloved miqo. I looked at my husband’s Hyur the same way and he looks not good at all. Both in general facial features and in details, which are very sloppy. But his Elezen looks great.

    That's why I say they did some of the work sloppily. Because they still managed to achieve almost perfect similarity in some cases. And I can’t say that any race was particularly successful. There are positive and negative examples among each race.

    Some people got lucky and got beautifully similar characters. Some people don't.
    We can only hope that they will fix everyone before the release of 7.0. And hope that they will even notice everything we write here.
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