Character graphical changes are NOT in an acceptable state, please make it optional

[LIzzychanstuff]

The main thing that needs to be addressed for me personally is the lack of static catchlights and the gloss on the lips. There needs to be an option for the sam level of gloss to the lips as the current game.

The catchlights is something I truly thing they would be realistically able to add back into the game without having to completely remodel something. I don't know if the gloss being added back is doable.

Also after looking at it they need to figure out a compromise to the current lip models, but this is something that will have to be changed over time due to being a modeling issue and not a simple texture issue they could fix quickly.

[cutestfox]

I've already posted this in another thread but I do think this is a point worth making. I'm sorry for repeating it:

Again, I know, a direct comparison with 1.0 is not completely fair and I don't actually demand we go back, as much as I praise (some! of) its character graphics. But if this character presentation was possible in 2011, then I would have hoped we could have at least gotten something similar/that comes close in 2024.

That's all I could've ever really wanted
some higher quality textures, improved lighting
there was absolutely no need to make these random changes to the faces

[Loggos]

Those bunny glow stick ears are absolutely sending me oh my god. ;____;

[coffeepotz]

People sure are worked up.

Big Gulps huh? Alrighht.

Welp, see ya later

[SongOfTheWind]

Lip colour for some races seems broken more than others. For light skinned (both rava and veena) mviera dark/light/none barely makes a difference now. For darker skin tones it starts to work suddenly (rava only)
But this felezen is a pretty drastic example of no colour resulting in dark brown/wine all of a sudden. So the problem seems to be more than just matte finish.

[lunartears]

Would like to contribute to this thread my observations on my own character:

Like others have posted after in this thread, I also feel that my character's features do not resemble the original image I had in mind.

- Eye shape has been altered, giving a different resting face
- Removal of the eye light means that I can no longer achieve the "stare" I once liked in certain angles
- New eyes appear to be staring soullessly as opposed to the pleasant resting stare that I felt with the original
- Eyes are more further apart
- Eyelashes appear different, less sharp. Feels like my character has lost eyelashes too, which is bizarre as I already use the least voluminous option.
- The natural subtle "ring" eye glow has now changed into "too glowy", affecting both light and dark environments.
- Upper and lower eyeshadow feels different, feels like the fade of the upper eyelid has been altered and less visible and the bottom eyelid is less noticable entirely.
- The eyebrows are darker than the hair and much more visible, this is not something I wanted with my character as I wanted to conceal the eyebrows with the bangs and white hair.
- The nose appears more wide and bumpy as opposed to triangular.
- Lack of lip gloss makes lips appear more and lips are notably much more plump (especially upper lip) whereas my original image was for her to have thin concealed pale lips.
- And in conjunction with the above, the mouth shadow removed means that the original idea for "less lip, more mouth" on my character can no longer be achieved.
- The face feels more rounded and less sharp yet the chin makeup looks similar from the side, so I have to assume it's the cheeks or another part that's causing this.
- I personally do not like the new horns/scales, I prefer the reflectiveness of the original and feel that the texture has been made less dynamic. I also feel that the more vibrant blue exclusive to F Au Ra seen in certain lighting has been lost.
- Skin texture is very unpleasant, somehow giving the impression of a sickly flat look
- My character's hair appears to look a little different, but I think it is because of the facial changes rather than the hair itself.
- Shadows in the original added more shape to the facial structure and general model

As a whole, I feel that my character may have relied on the old engine for her appearance and does not work in this more realistic upgrade. In particular, the excessive matte lips have taken away from my personal favorite aspect of playing my race: the distinct eyes. My eyes firstly focus on the giant lips and then the other features. And there is no way I can change this as it is now, I am using the palest option possible. I do want my WoL to be pretty, but this isn't my idea of beauty. And it certainly does not look any better in the benchmark, especially on the boat scene.

[Cheapshot]

Not really happy with the female miqo'te face 4 changes - the slight lip part and soot nose were key features and why I picked that face for that character, and I'm more than a little sad to see them gone/adjusted. I only played with face 2 keeper female's scars, but the scarring looks weird in a way I can't quite explain, probably that it feels weird for my dark-skinned keeper to have that light/bright of scarring.

I'm also a miqo face 4 haver and I'm pretty crushed by what they did. I picked that face because of it's unique charm. The lip part, the creases under the eyes, the more natural brows and lashes. The chubbier face. I loved how sassy and spunky I looked. They removed that individuality and now I just look like a pretty doll like all the rest of the catgirls. Except with a overall matte finish for some reason.


I'm really not a fan. Too many little changes add up and her face just feels so different.

[Endver]

I don't think there's a world where this is even remotely close, every single feature on the face is different, and it also looks like she was deaged about 15 years.

It's not even that it looks neccessarily bad but that's not my character.

I understand the difference because I have a character close to that. As for the answers where people can't tell the difference, keep in mind that we all have different characters, and the changes that were made to YOURS will always seem heavier than to other characters. After years of playtime, you need to know every detail of your character's face, and that's why for us, this face and these eyes are so different. On other posts I also took screenshots for comparison. You can see the big differences with these if you choose the Gridania preset (in CC). But let me post these screens so maybe you all can understand what's wrong. Please look at the eye shape at the top, right corner:

[Elissar]

Images here as I hit character limit:

Huge downgrades. Feels like our characters are 'greyish' like the scenario before 7.0
Not enough contrast. Not enough colors. Not enough love.

7.0 will be a different type of calamity.

i'm sorry

[Ceetee]

this is still under development, lol

Of course it is? Thats why we are all giving feedback. It wouldn't be helpful to do so after they FINISHED development and weren't going to touch it anymore.