Character graphical changes are NOT in an acceptable state, please make it optional

[caffe_macchiato]

Here is the thing - this is the point where the community can, and should, provide feedback for the devs to hear. There are subjective issues with the new models, as indicated by OP, that need to be tackled before the expansion is released.

You act as though this game needs constructive criticism. This is Final Fantasy XIV, not WoW. The resounding consensus is that FFXIV is fine no matter what form it takes, and the devs all deserve a raise and a tip for everything they've done. This isn't like WoW, GW2, or any other MMO that operates on community feedback. Don't forget, we're the English-speaking community, not Japan. It's like saying that vegans should have input in the menu for a steak restaurant. You are required to play the game as-is, you may NOT quit, you will like the MSQ, and you will quit to go play other games once we tell you to.

[Redgate]

This is a product, not a charity.

Bro you can't say that, this is 2024. You have to buy everything with no questions asked.

Plus tip.

[Tethan]

You act as though this game needs constructive criticism. This is Final Fantasy XIV, not WoW. The resounding consensus is that FFXIV is fine no matter what form it takes, and the devs all deserve a raise and a tip for everything they've done. This isn't like WoW, GW2, or any other MMO that operates on community feedback. Don't forget, we're the English-speaking community, not Japan. It's like saying that vegans should have input in the menu for a steak restaurant. You are required to play the game as-is, you may NOT quit, you will like the MSQ, and you will quit to go play other games once we tell you to.

Sounds rough, buddy.

If it makes you feel better, JP is upset for the exact same reasons, voicing the same criticisms over in their part of the forums.

[hiedra]

I mean, a lot of these changes cannot be fixed with fantas. Au Ra are especially impacted as horns and faces are still linked, but most races have limited enough options that changing one detail means there's no recovery if you're trying to match--not to mention how you can't go darker if you're already on the darkest color options. I don't blame anyone for quitting.

I just don't know why they bothered making these changes instead of just upscaling.

I'm not saying that I would blame anyone for quitting. But realistically I'm just not sure that will happen with a lot of people. Me personally I have a very toxic love/hate relationship with this game and I keep coming back.

I do agree that fantasia won't fix a lot of problems. My previous face will be impossible to get now. They took away the one feature that I liked about it most. Now he looks completely different. I'm very upset about it, but I am also weak and will continue to play anyway. A lot of people will be on that same boat.

[fantasiaaddict]

As for textures, they were all upscaled with AI. So it will take a lot of time for humans to go trough everything that does not look right and manually fix.

No they weren't.

[Burmecia]

If I recall, even World of Warcraft had toggle option to keep using old models when they did their graphical rework.

at this point, this please, please

[Xeronia]

I haven't pre-ordered and after this showing I doubt I will until as there just seems to be too many issues that shouldn't be present at this point. I do hope there is some official communication about the issues presented by the OP but until then I will take that advice everyone throws around of playing other games.

[kanrakuen]

First is benchmark, second is my character in the current character creator.


I have to say that I am also pretty upset about this. To get the same colorations back I would have to change the lip color (currently set to none) and to fix the "dirty" looking skin shadows I would have to add the dirt face paint in a lighter color. The catch lights in the eyes are practically gone.

No free Fantasia will fix the fact that I do not want to play my character like this, that it doesn't feel like my character. I am aware that I am complaining over minor things because other people have definitely been hit worse - but I think it is everyone's right to complain about unwanted changes, especially if they're more drastic (like plastic skin, wrong highlights in the hair, completely changed jaw shapes etc.)

I was looking forward to the benchmark and instead it sucked all motivation to even play Dawntrail out of me. Will I quit? Probably not. Will I start giving SE less money and only sub every other month so I don't lose my housing? Probably.

Between the absolute disaster that the Dawntrail preorder was and THIS, I am at the point where I legit regret preordering.

[Sazumi]

I sincerely hope they allow us to use the old models as an option. There's some cool new features but my female face 4 au ra got an unasked for nose job, lip filler, and her face is no longer angular. Her defining features were all wiped away. I'm crushed to say the least -- I'm super attached to her and she no longer looks like her. It's heartbreaking.

[CidHeiral]

Well, the WoW graphical changes wasn't the primary reason why I quit

So you admit your original post was disingenuous. Thanks for playing.

at this point, this please, please

WoW did have a model toggle with the update but it was removed in Legion, the very next expansion.