Character graphical changes are NOT in an acceptable state, please make it optional

[vhsgod]

Okay, again, I know the benchmark is not 100 percent final and there are changes to be expected. But I did comparisons with my main (face 1 male Elezen) and the difference is drastic. DT graphics gives me a character that I don't recognize at all. The thinning of the eyebrows and lips makes this a whole new character. I do like that the nose they have is more angular, but that's about it.

I sincerely hope there will be an option to use the old graphics. I'm not sure if I'll be happy with the new graphics if this will end up being the final outcome.

Top is current graphics; bottom is benchmark.

[NanaWiloh]

Breasts are still low polly

As for textures, they were all upscaled with AI. So it will take a lot of time for humans to go trough everything that does not look right and manually fix.

It will be very awkward if modders will fix the issues faster

Modders will do faster cause for most its hobby not a job. Their not being told what they can and cannot work on.

[DiaDeem]

Besides racial traits (Keeper Fangs) and obvious visual bugs like Hair/Beard clipping, it's really hard for me to see the changes as anything other than a massive upgrade.

Sadly, it's not up to me to decide what people like or dislike for their own characters.
I don't think most people are complaining in bad faith, but I also don't know if people are just too attached to the PS3 look because how long it's been with us.

I guess I hope they can maybe tweak eye glow a bit to accentuate it, even if there's little light, and tweak dark skin tones a bit.

I said this before, and I need to stop posting because I'm just repeating myself, but I really just hope the best for everyone.

I know we all love our characters.

[Gemina]

Okay, again, I know the benchmark is not 100 percent final and there are changes to be expected. But I did comparisons with my main (face 1 male Elezen) and the difference is drastic. DT graphics gives me a character that I don't recognize at all. The thinning of the eyebrows and lips makes this a whole new character. I do like that the nose they have is more angular, but that's about it.

I sincerely hope there will be an option to use the old graphics. I'm not sure if I'll be happy with the new graphics if this will end up being the final outcome. The only thing I like more in the Benchmark is the skin appears to have more texture, but the lighting and shading is horrendous. His ear also appears to have been stung by a bee. In both versions they also really need to work on how hair parts over the ears, and can hopefully get neckwear to contour better. It's very polygonal.

Top is current graphics; bottom is benchmark.

This is one where I see little to no improvement

[hiedra]

Besides racial traits (Keeper Fangs) and obvious visual bugs like Hair/Beard clipping, it's really hard for me to see the changes as anything other than a massive upgrade.

Sadly, it's not up to me to decide what people like or dislike for their own characters.
I don't think most people are complaining in bad faith, but I also don't know if people are just too attached to the PS3 look because how long it's been with us.

I guess I hope they can maybe tweak eye glow a bit to accentuate it, even if there's little light, and tweak dark skin tones a bit.

I said this before, and I need to stop posting because I'm just repeating myself, but I really just hope the best for everyone.

I know we all love our characters.

I think it depends on what face you are using. For a lot of the female characters the changes are minimal.

But males have some faces with more distinct/harsher features and those features were lost to the update since the update made everything softer/smoother.

[XorgateNia]

I would also agree that some changes completely change look of character and would either appreciate more customization to keep original look or have optional switch to new character models.

[Rudje]

Some female faces also got hit with the inexplicable major changes bat, tbh. Plus, I've yet to see a female Viera face that doesn't have inexplicable lip changes--you can see them even in DiaDeem's example, the entire mouth (not just the outer shape of the lips) is different now and not in a good way.

[DiaDeem]

But males have some faces with more distinct/harsher features and those features were lost to the update since the update made everything softer/smoother.

I really can't argue with that. I don't have a male character so I can't really speak for experience.

If anything, I'll agree with the general sentiment that a more liberal/artistic eye glow may go a long way in winning people over. Obviously eyes wouldn't reflect light from every angle, but we're still dealing with stylized graphics. It's ok to break the rules.

Other than that (and darkening some skin tones a bit)... I really don't know what they can do realistically. I love what they did, but not everyone else does.

[DynnDiablos]

It still makes more sense to keep the models the "same but better" over changing them to maybe succeed in appealing to people who didn't like the old version, at the cost of definitely upsetting the people who were happy with it.

Do you really think in the next two months they are just going to REVERSE everything they have spent the last couple years on? What people on here are demanding could easily delay Dawntrail by a year. They aren't going to do that.

[Sarnai]

Do you really think in the next two months they are just going to REVERSE everything they have spent the last couple years on? What people on here are demanding could easily delay Dawntrail by a year. They aren't going to do that.

there are still massive problems that can be fixed in shorter time, that are not the complete overhaul

Nobody asks them no change the entire model, but there are some layers of textures that just look weird and changing them will fix problems like waxy gloss.
There are problems with hair textures clipping on itse;f that also can be fixed in a matter of couple hours.
Or au ra jpeg scales textures, that are just ugly.

They didnt work for years on just character models, and nobody asks them to redo the whole locations or lighting, but some races/genders are just butchered.