Character graphical changes are NOT in an acceptable state, please make it optional

[vhsgod]

Adding onto the issues with male Midlanders. I use face 1 for my own and he looks more doll-like in the benchmark. Brows are also paler in comparison, and eye and lip shapes have changed. Not the worst changes that can happen and I very much know the benchmark is not an accurate portrayal of the new graphics, but I am overall not very thrilled about what I'm seeing. Very uncanny valley and slightly unrecognizable.

Left is benchmark, right is current graphics.

[Laute]

Hey! Wanted to bring up another thread to add to the index of issues. Hellsguard Roegadyn also have some smudge issues on the nose. Can you add this to the Arbitrary/Unwanted Changes list?

Roegadyn Thread

[Alahria]

I don't even know anymore. This looks nothing like my character to me.

[Alahria]

I don't even know anymore. This looks nothing like my character to me.

I shared this in another post but I'll update it here as well. I decided to take some 'better' screenshots and I think one of the issues with MViera face 4 is that the eyelashes change with the color of our hair now. Of course, the lip changes are very obvious. Sorry my screenshots aren't perfect side-by-side comparisons.

[justausername]

Male viera here, and other then the fact I can't truly use the hair I want to in the benchmark (I mean I can, with the copy paste method, but its not updated). I quite like how my character looks, and how most looked when I played around with the creator.

What people have to keep in mind is that this is NOT THE FINAL PRODUCT.

If you notice clipping, or pieces of texture missing, POINT IT OUT. Remember when bun boys slouched like 50% more in the benchmark and they fixed it based on feedback? They still slouch of course but not nearly as bad as they did in the benchmark.

Right now they are going through their QA process, and this is frankly part of it. They aren't collecting your screenshots from the benchmark just because they want to reward people. They are collecting information to make sure their estimations on minimum and recommended requirements are accurate, or if they have to change them. The media tour will also be part of this, they will take feedback from the people that are a part of it. They obviously can't make MASSIVE changes at this point, but small things can be tweaked, if not in time for 7.0 itself, then for a hotfix or later patch.

But also... not everyone is going to be happy. Not everyone WAS happy with how it was before. I'm sure most of us will adjust soon enough.

[Iscah]

But also... not everyone is going to be happy. Not everyone WAS happy with how it was before. I'm sure most of us will adjust soon enough.

It still makes more sense to keep the models the "same but better" over changing them to maybe succeed in appealing to people who didn't like the old version, at the cost of definitely upsetting the people who were happy with it.

[Rudje]

It still makes more sense to keep the models the "same but better" over changing them to maybe succeed in appealing to people who didn't like the old version, at the cost of definitely upsetting the people who were happy with it.

Yeah, if they wanted to have different faces... make them new options? Don't alter what was already there? I'd rather everyone get an extra face that has whatever the devs are trying to chase here rather than the old faces having features get totally reworked for no clear reason. It's not like the lacking eye shine which is just a consequence of the new lighting, several faces have features that are outright different shapes.

[DynnDiablos]

It still makes more sense to keep the models the "same but better" over changing them to maybe succeed in appealing to people who didn't like the old version, at the cost of definitely upsetting the people who were happy with it.

Do you really think in the next two months they are just going to REVERSE everything they have spent the last couple years on? What people on here are demanding could easily delay Dawntrail by a year. They aren't going to do that.

[Sarnai]

Do you really think in the next two months they are just going to REVERSE everything they have spent the last couple years on? What people on here are demanding could easily delay Dawntrail by a year. They aren't going to do that.

there are still massive problems that can be fixed in shorter time, that are not the complete overhaul

Nobody asks them no change the entire model, but there are some layers of textures that just look weird and changing them will fix problems like waxy gloss.
There are problems with hair textures clipping on itse;f that also can be fixed in a matter of couple hours.
Or au ra jpeg scales textures, that are just ugly.

They didnt work for years on just character models, and nobody asks them to redo the whole locations or lighting, but some races/genders are just butchered.

[Endemerrin]

There's definitely some weird things going on with facial hair that I am not a fan of at all. Lighter haired characters have theirs almost entirely disappear.



Here's a shot of the same hair color in the benchmark itself, and even then, you have to get really close to your monitor to notice there's even the faintest bit of fuzz. It's a really huge and jarring change that basically makes the stubble non-existent for anyone that doesn't have a dark haired character.