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  1. #681
    Player
    Oizen's Avatar
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    Alondite Ragnell
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    Marilith
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    I literally woke up in a state of shock last night drenched in a cold sweat as I looked upon the bench mark one more time to see that my Warrior of Light's nose was 2 pixels larger, and their lips had slightly more detail on them.
    how could yoship do this to us
    (10)

  2. #682
    Player Nyxs's Avatar
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    Koyuki Himekawa
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    Malboro
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    Conjurer Lv 52
    Quote Originally Posted by Ryley View Post
    Your character has giant black bushy eyebrows that are angled in a way as to make her look angry, a hairstyle that shows half a 5head, a random star that doesn't match her skin tone and giant lips. The developers don't need to fix anything, you do.
    Idk why but this made me laugh. Made me think of the lalas with super bushy brows that look mad
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  3. #683
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    AuroraLenaire's Avatar
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    Aurora Lenaire
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    Siren
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    White Mage Lv 90
    I know I'm late to the party here, but finally logged in so I could post here and join the chorus of players who are devastated with the changes to their characters. I had a bad feeling about the graphics update the moment it was mentioned but went into the benchmark with an open mind and excited to see the new looks. What I saw made me cry... None of my characters look good anymore and my two favorites, who I tweaked to (what I consider, anyway) pixel-perfect perfection just look ugly and lifeless now. My bunny looks like he has been rubbing dirt on his face all day and nothing I change in cc makes him look better. My hyur has a plastic round face now... The skin colors have all changed and none of the options are close to what they were and none look good. The lips look horrible... I tried various angles and while they look *slightly* better in the bright light it's a major downgrade in every way. Plus, they used to look good in all lights. And why do all the hyurs have freckles or dirt on their faces??? So disappointed Here are my before and after pics.

    Update: I don't have a pic atm but I noticed today that they look slightly better in the shroud background, than the usual la noscea one I use in cc, so I'm hoping it really is just cc not showing them well. My hyur came out looking close to ok (except some dirty spots on her cheeks and chin) but my bun unfortunately still looked pretty bad with what looked like dirt all over his face... Really hoping their upcoming fixes make him look attractive again. He was my favorite lol




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    Last edited by AuroraLenaire; 04-20-2024 at 12:30 PM.

  4. #684
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    cutestfox's Avatar
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    Cutest Fox
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    Siren
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    White Mage Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Scintilla View Post
    In all honesty, even in this case, no-where did it mention that the character would be exactly the same. 'Overall' being the key word: 'in-general', 'for the most part', 'to a large extent' etc.

    Basic English. If I was to say something went well overall, it doesn't mean everything was perfect and went as intended. It means that while some things may not have gone to plan or as expected, it generally went okay.
    Yeah. And it wasn't. Coupled along with Yoshi-P's reassuring quotes about how much time and care they'd be putting in to make sure your character still feels the same and is recognizable to you
    No amount of "English lessons" from you is going to twist that
    It missed the mark. Basic comprehension.
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  5. #685
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    LlymlaenGreene's Avatar
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    Llymlaen Greene
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    Cerberus
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    Goldsmith Lv 93
    Quote Originally Posted by Tsumdere View Post
    Perhaps it is difficult to articulate what is different because the thing that is different is so insignificant. I still recommend pulling out the MSPaint if you wish to give feedback.

    I get that you're upset and I'm not here to say you can't be upset, but in my humble opinion as a fellow Face 1 Middie user - your character is close to identical before and after and really cute in both. She's not ugly. She looks the same. It's a cute face. No, she doesn't look like she was stung by wasps.
    thanks for the adequate response, it's nice to see this even after I started being impolite. But it's still not the same for me. In order not to be empty-mouthed, at the moment I asked my five friends who sees me every day and they all replied that your cheeks are bigger, your nose is different, your eyes are different, you have botox, you are stung by bees * which coincides with my opinion*, and they also like the previous one * because it is more familiar and/ or really better*. I'm absolutely in favor of graphic improvements, I just want all parties to be happy, But as for paint, I did the mixing there and it's so uncomfortable, it used to be much more convenient in Photoshop, but now there's only standard paint

    I really complain about how she behaves in cutscenes, maybe I need to record some cut scene and compare it with a benchmark, but why and who will watch it * not the developers for sure*

    So please imagine, I feel out of place when I watch a short demo with my character. And what happens when I need to do msq or even sidequests * I'm not a skipper* and with my English lesson I read slowly. During this, I would like to see a more familiar character, I would be glad to see the old version or the new one, where in my opinion I feel comfortable seeing this character. And I also want everyone to be satisfied, both who wants changes and who doesn't. I wish the developers to do everything right! :3
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  6. #686
    Player
    Oizen's Avatar
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    Alondite Ragnell
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    Marilith
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Reinha View Post
    Then why have a character model update at all? Since you and a lot of other people can't even tell which version is which, there is no point in implementing it.
    I mean I'm seeing far more people liking the updates than disliking them, I like the new details and how I can't count the amount of polygons on my character's nose anymore.
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  7. #687
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    LlymlaenGreene's Avatar
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    Llymlaen Greene
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    Cerberus
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    Goldsmith Lv 93
    Quote Originally Posted by AuroraLenaire View Post
    I know I'm late to the party here, but finally logged in so I could post here and join the chorus of players who are devastated with the changes to their characters. I had a bad feeling about the graphics update the moment it was mentioned but went into the benchmark with an open mind and excited to see the new looks. What I saw made me cry... None of my characters look good anymore and my two favorites, who I tweaked to (what I consider, anyway) pixel-perfect perfection just look ugly and lifeless now. My bunny looks like he has been rubbing dirt on his face all day and nothing I change in cc makes him look better. My hyur has a plastic round face now... The skin colors have all changed and none of the options are close to what they were and none look good. The lips look horrible... I tried various angles and while they look *slightly* better in the bright light it's a major downgrade in every way. Plus, they used to look good in all lights. And why do all the hyurs have freckles or dirt on their faces??? So disappointed Here are my before and after pics.




    This, i have the same face and for me and for this is a downgrade, i adore characters like your hyur and i have friends who has the same face and after that they will be like that, huh
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    Last edited by LlymlaenGreene; 04-19-2024 at 05:14 AM.

  8. #688
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    Reinha's Avatar
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    Reinha Sorrowmoon
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    Odin
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    Reaper Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Oizen View Post
    I mean I'm seeing far more people liking the updates than disliking them, I like the new details and how I can't count the amount of polygons on my character's nose anymore.
    So you can, in fact, tell the difference? It's weird how people gaslight how there are no changes at all to characters but on the other hand the changes are so massive that this update was mandatory.
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  9. #689
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    Llymlaen Greene
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    Goldsmith Lv 93
    Quote Originally Posted by Oizen View Post
    I mean I'm seeing far more people liking the updates than disliking them, I like the new details and how I can't count the amount of polygons on my character's nose anymore.
    You have an interesting way to evaluate the quality of work using polygons. Excuse me, but if the developers had attached carrots from billions of polygons to you instead of a nose, would you be saying the same thing now?
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  10. #690
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    Vera Nova
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    Spriggan
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    Gunbreaker Lv 90
    I made this small comparison earlier, I changed the benchmark gamma to 0 and I think it's similarish in color. The Bench lacks alot of the darker shadows and also it lacks alot of the vibrancy of the the hair. I admit I'm not entirely knowledgable about the technical details of the new graphics so I'm merely looking at it from a stylistic/artistic perspective.

    I used my keyboard's arrow keys to adjust the angle in both the bench and the current cc. I tried my best to take similarly lit shots but even that is hard to control due to how different the lighting in both is. My idea is to show the Jaw shape from outside. I encourage people to try doing that when doing comparison shots- I doubt an ideal shot is fair.

    Slider Version



    = The face was moved downwards? Which I don't care much about.
    = The jaw is more round giving the face an 'egg' shape, there was a subtle angle going down [ Which is unfortunate because if I wanted a really plump look I'd go for other faces ]

    While the change is subtle, it makes her face look abit hmm, puffy? I feel like this is a common issue that I'm seeing, puffy/round/soft.

    I tried my best to keep the angle the same and everything is as exact as it can be, using the hair parting and ear tips as guidance but I do admit there's probably a margin of error somewhere because the CC doesn't have precise tools for rotation/resetting camera etc.
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