Character graphical changes are NOT in an acceptable state, please make it optional

[noumen0nn]

Seems to address most things except for the actual change to some models, like eyelashes and eyebrows. Hope they will address that too.

I was annoyed to see that, but I want to believe it's just because it's PR speak. After how much people have (reasonably) dragged them over their past remarks about how our character's won't feel changed, I would be very cautious in their position about overpromising anything. Let's hope "We will also continue to make adjustments which will incorporate as much of your feedback as possible into the revision of the benchmark, as well as the release version of Dawntrail" implies further adjustments to the face features to bring them in line with the live version.

[KisaiTenshi]

https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes...cf949ef43bf580

They're going to do an update on the Benchmark everyone! Hopefully this addresses some of our issues.

It should have been pretty obvious that some of the issues were the character creator, why didn't they notice before they released the benchmark *shrug*

Like I said earlier and elsewhere, I'm sure some of these issues won't be in the game because the benchmark is just a subset of what is in the game to begin with, and you can go look at some of the ARR and HW era gear in the creator and clearly see those are low-quality textures. It'll just be a question of what still get's overlooked in the release build of the game.

But at least they addressed some of it.

[AirisRay]

Well, that's quite detailed information. I'll wait for the fixed version of Benchmark, hopefully it will appear soon.

[Reinha]

A.“Lifeless” eyes due to a lack of highlights in the pupils
B.Facial contours appearing flattened due to incorrect lighting conditions caused by backlighting
C.A lack of gloss or excessive appearance of gloss due to character creation-exclusive weather conditions (i.e. the use of thunderclouds)

So they will fix my character's dead eyes, flat skin color and missing lip gloss.

A.An issue with unimplemented high-resolution textures, including those for certain playable races.

This hopefully includes my duskwight face 1 eyebrows which went from black to blonde.

D.An issue with uncorrected scaling for the mouth of certain playable races.

And the above means they may fix the thinned lips too.

Which are all the complaints I had about my character's changed face. Looks like the devs agree those changes weren't insignificant.

[potatsdevourer]

personally anticipating for better lighting/character creation to showcase the update better. at the same time, it just means comparing between two graphics going to be more difficult due to different variables. i am scared and excited

[Zaniel]

Looking through 75-sh pages of faces there's been plenty of examples where I have thought "damn, their Dawntrail version looks way sexier" or for a few "wth I can't see any difference" but I keep those opinions to myself because it's not MY place to judge THEIR feelings about THEIR character. I know that an engine change which includes lighting and rigging is impossible to replicate 100% of an old engine, that somewhere out there someone will be left dissatisfied but they don't need to hear that from me, especially since things might change between now and DT.

[Temulun]

I know I'm a little late to the party and they've already addressed most of the feedback but I'd like to add a bit anyway. If I'm doing this in the wrong place I apologize, I'm new to writing on the forum. I put my opinions on the face paint over here. Sorry I can't get the quote to work to add it to this thread. TLDR some of the face paint is on the neck and I'd like it not to be.

Some other notes that I think may already have been addressed:

Of course the lips on mouth 4 for female au ra have been talked about and I'm sure they're going to fix. The gloss is not just a character creator issue, it looks matte in the benchmark. I didn't mind the cupids bow or the bottom lip being slightly different but I know that's an issue for many and I don't mind if they stay with original design, but I think the lack of the lip part and the bump on the bottom of the upper lip makes it look strange. This is Female Au Ra mouth 4 and male Lalafell mouth 1.





I like how the horns look but I think the scales look like they lack a little definition the old version had that makes them look a little flat and like they're not part of her skin, hopefully that gets fixed with the update to character creator lighting. Or maybe that's due to the pixelated edges some people have pointed out. I also appreciate how the details come through on parts of the scales that are painted.




I'd also like to note that I like the increase in detail of the eyes, I like the decision to make the pupils bigger, and while the limbal rings look strange in character creator like they're a little too thick it looks much better in the actual benchmark so I'm happy with the eyes. The creator doesn't quite do them justice. I know some people didn't like it I just think mine look fine.





I appreciate the devs hearing people's feedback and working to fix it.

[AirisRay]

Some people have a hard time understanding how the forum works in general, but they stubbornly try to convict someone of something with phrases taken out of context and out of conversation.
I don’t even know whether to laugh or cry with pity for such boundless and meaningless persistence.

Reminder. By clicking on the icon next to the nickname in the quote, you can go to the original message and understand its full context, as well as see what exactly the person answered and reacted to.
Therefore, all these efforts with “incriminating” random quotes are... simply ridiculous

[Scintilla]

Some people have a hard time understanding how the forum works in general, but they stubbornly try to convict someone of something with phrases taken out of context and out of conversation.
I don’t even know whether to laugh or cry with pity for such boundless and meaningless persistence.

Reminder. By clicking on the icon next to the nickname in the quote, you can go to the original message and understand its full context, as well as see what exactly the person answered and reacted to.
Therefore, all these efforts with “incriminating” random quotes are... simply ridiculous

I think you'll find all of them to be in response to an opinion which the poster didn't agree with. If I was taking them out of context, the most obvious thing to do would be to copy the text and unlink the comment from the post.

So further to this:

Were these posts polite, respectful and conducive to an open discussion?

I'll give you a hint: the answer is 'No'

[cutestfox]

If I was taking them out of context

Yeah. You were taking them out of context and being disingenuous as usual

Here's the complete context chain condensed into one image